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Zozo

Zozo or otherwise known as the Ouija board demon is one of the worst entites you could contact from the other side. No one really knows if he is real and what his back story is, but we do know not to contact him. So whatever you do don’t use a Ouija board to contact the dead.

Zozo can harm people physically, mentally, and just overall. He can also posses and attach himself to you. He will harm anyone and anything in his path. It is best for no contact over the Ouija board. Though if you do here are some warning sings he is there or if evil is there. The entity can start off nice and portray themselves as a past realitve or friend, then they trun out to be a curel monster. You let them in because they know everything they should because of the energy you give off through the planchette the enity can get into your brain and read your memories. Once your trust is gained they change to this monster and maybe cause you some harm they want to make there persance known to you that there in control and your weak. They want you to afraid of them because evil feds off fear, if this starts to happen say goodbye and close out the session.

Other things that could happen are rapid movements on the board moving from Z to O the enite trying to spell out Zozo or moving from M to A to spell out Mama he goes by many of names or to create a portal to get out of hell. The protal comes from backwards motions repeatedly made on the Ouija board. Next sign is if the entity makes rapid figure eight’s on the board or makes rainbow motions with the planchette close the session right away no matter what. If you feel uneased while using the Ouija board most chances are you are contacting something evil so stop and cancel the session say goodbye. Last sign is darkness like depression during, or after, if the lights go out or you just feel this darkness from within stop and say goodbye. There probably is many more signs of evil but these are the basic ones to look for.

If you think you are just in danger by using an Ouija board you’re wrong. People have also been in contact with him during automatic writing session, EVP sessions, and hypnosis. Though most people contact him through the Ouija board.

Ouija board or spirit Baird as some call them.

Zozo has been here for most of human history the first recorded of him is in 1812 ppublished in 1818 A little girl came in contact with him and became possessed by him, Mimi, and Crapoulet. It is all written in The Dictionaire Infernal by Jacques Auguste Simon Collin de Plancy recorded that the girl would stand on her own hands and act indecten in front of people. After awhile of the possesen she was exorcised correctly and successfully. Though it is said when Zozo came out of her the windows shatter. The priest was never allowed to do another exorcism unless he wanted to go to jail.

In 2009 Darren Evans reportedly came in contact with Zozo while using the Ouija board. The demon lured him in by sharing things about the other side only the dead know about. Eventually he became obsessed with talking to this entity through the Ouija board. Over time Zozo showed what he really is and started hurting Darren and his family. Darren had a nervous breakdown claiming Zozo was following him. Zozo even threatened his daughter claiming he’d steal her soul, she nearly died. Zozo tormented and stalked her till she ended up in the hospital. Eventually Darren had enough and had an exorcism preformed to get rid of Zozo.

Is this a game?

People don’t always see eye to eye on what Zozo is, is he a demon, or what? All we know is if you contact him you wish you didn’t because of his temper. Is he just a single demon most people come in contact with? Is he the Mesopotamian King of wind demon’s, Pazuzu? Others say Zozo is simply a malevolent entity that took on the name Zozo because of growing fear around it. Some others say Zozo is a group of demons because they use the name to make a portal to get out but it hasn’t worked yet. No one knows who Zozo is but Zozo himself.

Now we can tie this in with the real world besides for maybe a real story. Everyone knows of Led Zeppelin, or I hope so. The guitarist Jimmy Page is wondered to have ties to the occult because of this sweater. (Picture below)It is the same symbol that comes from a banned occult book in 1521. In this book you can find a code for the god god Saturn or Zoso. Our question still remains is Jimmy Page apart of the occult?

Jimmy Page’s sweater is now a fashion statement.

If you don’t remember the warnings that evil is here they are again: rapid movements- spelling of name or making the figure eight, announcements- like there name or evil is here and such, feeling uneasy, or just darkness. His other names he goes by but not all zaza, mama, zoso, zizi, oz, ozoz, Pazuzu, abacus the 28 extreme. Whatever that means for the last one.

How to break the connection: remain calm- demons fed off fear, close the session- say goodbye and probably dispose of the Ouija board if you feel the need to, don’t speak his name- names hold power, seek help- if you feel he is still there- cleanse the space and get in contact with a medium or priest, just don’t make him made with your cleansing.

If needed here are some Wiccan protection symbols to help against anything that your fighting. Always keep your your light bright then the demons can’t get to you.

Now that we talked about the paranormal side of this some sciencist think that this all the Ideomotor effect. It happens when we subconsciously move something, like the planchette it is such a tiny movement we can’t tell, plus we didn’t do it purposly. They can’t explain people being hurt though maybe some hurt themselves others might be abused, other people might actually have contacted Zozo himself.

What do you think? Is Zozo real is he fake? Have you encounter Zozo himself? I have a friend who did and their story is scary if any of you want a follow up on more true Zozo stories I will do so.

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Hinsdale house

We all love a good horror movie right? What if you lived in a horror movie, for real. Well I hope you don’t live in a horror movie. There are many haunted houses in this world, or supposedly haunted if you don’t believe. I do believe in the paranormal and unexplainable if you haven’t figured that out yet. So what if I told you about a house that could be cursed, haunted, or have a demonic entity residing there? This house is the Hinsdale house also known as the Dandy house.

I personally haven’t been there but I might want to go there since it is so rich in history and it isn’t fully evil I believe. Before we get into the hauntings lets start on the history of the place. The Hinsdale house we can only date back to, 1799 when 1,100 maybe more or less Native Americans were killed on this land during a massacre. The researchers of the land believe it was Wenros who predate the Seneca Indians. I believe they were killed over land or because of the American Indian War. There are four to five Native American mounds on the land. It is not fully confirmed or denied that these Native American’s cursed the land before they died. Now some people speculate if this is true or not since it wasn’t spoken about till 2009 and the person who spoke about it didn’t have all his facts right. Today no one would get Alexander Hamilton’s birthday wrong, like he did in the Newspaper. 

Before we get into the gruesome history of many deaths there are some who believe there was a witch killed on the grounds. She was a Native American so they burned her at the stake on this land. She was no witch just a healer, someone with a gift.

So before the house was built there is still a bit of history to get into. There was or should I say there is a hanging tree on the original property since it is still there well fragments of it in a ditch, but you are not allowed to trespass on the property. The tree is even said to give off EMFs readings. It was supposedly a clear day out when a bolt of lightning hit this tree in 2003. I don’t know if these are the real names of the people in the story, I only got this information from one source. Her name was Elizabeth and she had just gotten married to her husband, who had to leave for war. They were a poor couple and he couldn’t afford rings or a certification of marriage. When Elizabeth started showing signs of the pregnancy everyone in the town thought she committed adultery. Because of this she was hung pregnant, no one believed her. In my opinion she had some rude friends. Though when her husband came home he looked everywhere for her and never found her. Elizabeth is believed to be buried by this tree. 

The hanging tree

Years later Lewis Wood settled in Hinsdale to pursue work. His brother Wheelock Wood settled down in township 3 Range 3. Where Emory Yates Sr. had built a saw mill. Wheelock settled close to the saw mill and to Emory. By the year 1830 Wheelock owned 249 acres of property- living well, farming, tanning, building a house. In 1853 it is believed that David and Charles Everett bought land off Wheelock where the Haunted Hinsdale house now stands.

Some people believe that David built the house all by himself. Since it wasn’t the two stories it is today. It is not all the property it once was, since 90 acres has been sold off, the owner today only has 10 acres. The Everett brothers were iron workers, Irish, and hard workers at that. But were they murders like the folklore says? Back then they had a way station behind the house, so if they were these murders as we know them as. They would probably lure the ladies from there to the house.

There were some people thinking this house is an inn, but what if the inn was in front of the house? Well across the road, in what looks like a field, today. So what if they frequent the inn and bring home a lady for a kill if they did kill? Then they would rob the stagecoach, rape the women, then kill. In summer they would bury the corpse in the hills, if not they would put them in the crawl space or the basement. So are these gentlemen attributed to this haunting or were they just humans living a normal life without crime? I hope they didn’t kill anyone. I believe myself that if they did kill it means so many more souls are trapped there that we don’t know about.

After the brothers left for Iowa a new family moved in Alfred Burton. The Burton’s moved in 1861 and then George and Elizabeth Burton sold the house over to an Irish immigrant couple in the early 1900’s. Michael McMahon, Catharine Howard, and their kids were soon moving in.  

Hinsdale house

The McMahon’s stayed for 70 years. How in such a haunted house who knows. The road to the Hinsdale house is named after their family, McMahon road. Maybe the hauntings didn’t start until the 1970s like it is recorded, though a few things did happen. In 1942 a 16 year old, Alfred Warner killed himself by accident. He was a neighbor’s kid who lived on a farm in Cuba. He was out back with his father’s buzz saw chopping wood when sadly the buzz saw snagged and hit his head with immense force. The buzz saw struck his head hard enough to fracture it, he was rushed to the hospital where he died three hours later. There was also another boy who was almost killed in the house in the 40’s. He went into the only closet of the house to get something and went to grab it. When a belt went around his neck. The belt tried to hang him, but no such luck he was able to escape from this belt and lived.

While the family was still there in the early 60s two brothers were fighting in the woods, over what you ask, religion. The older brother was converting to Catholicism in layman terms Catholic to Jehovah. His younger brother didn’t like this extreme change. Since it was out in the country and they were older, they were fighting with guns. The younger brother accidently shot the older brother and killed him. This was a tragic accident and a sad thing to happen to both brothers since the younger brother just got out of jail the summer prior to. I have tried to find both names and I haven’t been able to. Maybe one you guys can find their names and I will update the blog after you inform me about it.

After the McMahon O’Brian family moved out there was a new family that moved in it was bought by the Reiss Family, Donna Reiss actually bought it for profit in her mind since she was a real estate agent. It was bought in 1969 and they stayed until the early 70s. This is maybe when the hauntings started or at least started to show themselves. Since the Reiss family wanted to build cabins on the land with ponds for each one. Though they only got one pond dug. They marked off ten plots of land and they would’ve started the foundation of a few cabins but that is it. 

The family decided to knock down the old barn and dig the pond right there. There is a problem with that we have found that out today. Since the family found an old milk truck intact and basically was like ‘eh will just hide it.’ Then another problem was the McMahon O’Brian family was a poorer family I would assume, since they buried their ancestors on the land right behind the barn. 

A look at what they could of found in the barn, as the milk truck.

Since one of the grandkids contacted Dan and asked if she could visit her grandmother Rosie. He of course asked why. She said her grandmother was buried on the land behind the barn and would like to visit her. Rosie has been heard on the EVPs before too. So did the Reiss family find the skeletons and just rebury them or did they never find them? We might know sooner than you think Dan had radar equipment and a deep sea diver out there in September of 2019.  

We don’t know what drove the Reiss family out of the Hinsdale house but we do know what happened after they moved out. So buckle up suckers since the story has just begun. 

The Dandy family moved in 1970. The Dandy’s lived in Buffalo and wanted to have room for their kids to play, run around, and more. So the family made the hour and half move depending on routes it would be 69 or 73 miles. So they aren’t going to the same school after the move. The school change was way different. They went from a strict Catholic School to public school and had to start all over with friends. They had four kids Michael, Beth, Laura, and Mary (in order with age.) Clara and Phil were a long distance couple basically since his job was still in Buffalo, so he wasn’t there most of the time. If it was a bad day to drive he would spend the night with Clara’s family in Buffalo.

It was quite dandy at first they had the space they wanted and more. Then it started the hauntings… or was it always there just underneath and the destruction of the barn and disruption of the land for the pound made it more prevalent. 

Before the real hauntings even started things happened to the family, Michael scorched his stomach, bees, and Mary fell off her bike. Laura fell off her mini-bike and found out she had a severe staph infection in her foot. Clara broke a finger on her right hand, while changing a window she had to wear a splint for weeks. Michael cut a tendon in his wrist while cutting a glass bottle making a vase. Phil cut his thumb to the bone while pushing a car out in the snow. Beth broke her arm permanently disfiguring it while she was in gym class. Mike broke a toe while playing basketball. Laura broke her foot exercising.

Clara’s mother, the kid’s grandmother broke her leg in Buffalo in her own house falling down the stairs. The grandparents had three auto accidents, that was reported in the book. Clara had an auto accident in Buffalo while Christmas shopping. Beth’s boyfriend had an auto accident five weeks after Michael’s (so in November, roughly around the 27, 1973). The thing that makes this one weird her boyfriend’s car was new and this road is known to cause cars to stop working or accidents to just happen. 

Cars have been known to park in the driveway of the house and have the brakes stop working, the exhaust fall off, transmission stop working, and more. Beth’s boyfriends accident wasn’t as major as Michael’s but two years after this accident he still wasn’t able to work. The insurance was messed up, the only accident that was covered was Michael’s major one. Because of all the accidents at least one person could track who they were just by their accident reports at the insurance company. Sometimes when the family would come home they would see their draws rifled through it was mostly the girls’ draws not Michael’s. Even though he had guns, was this a human or an entity?

The house even misplaced or stole money from them, out in the open, locked up, in a wallet it was the house’s money. The family was at first well off when they left for Hinsdale because they could afford the house but times change and money got tighter. Clara had to quit her job when they moved plus the house stole their money. The house didn’t want them there for sure. Imagine a house so alive telling you to get out in more ways than one?

The first supernatural sighting was of an entity outside holding a shotgun wearing overalls. He was younger in his teenage years, seen by Michael in one part of the house but he lost sight so he ran and found him once again. Where his sister’s were in another part of the house, he pointed out the entity out all three saw this entity that day. This case of a haunting is special. It started on the outside and traveled to the inside of the house. Instead of the spirits haunting the house first then following outside to the land. It was and it is still an unusual case since we are still piecing it together today.

After that many incidents happened they had weird phone calls happening and if people don’t remember or don’t know they didn’t have caller identification then. So you couldn’t see who it was and immediately ignore it if it was telemarketers. So they picked up the calls and it wasn’t their friends, family, or anyone else. It was strangers or was it something else entirely different? They heard whispers, crackling, or it was completely silent. Now it could very well be prank calls but add it up with everything else and you might think it wasn’t prank calls anymore. 

The woods emanate chanting and drumming from the Native Americans who have passed on. It is said if you do a Native American drum circle it will calm down the spirits and appease them for a short period of time. Though if you say the name Everett, the entities ramp up in energy. There have been reported whispers that come from outside. Is it from one of the Native Americans, one of the people that were hung, someone who died from something else. This place is known to attract spirits like flies to honey.

The Dandy family saw a full body apparition of  a woman in white outside of the house. It is said this woman in white is Elizabeth. The family has seen half human hybrids of a cow/human and other hybrids too, which could very while be demonic. There were two exposed bricks in the living room from the chimney and they moved themselves out of the chimney and placed themselves in the crawl space. Just one example of what the spirits can do here.  

Phil was home one night and saw faces outside the window while everyone else was in their rooms. So he thought these weird faces were trespassers and went to chase them off, but as soon as he got outside no one was there. Instead they were on the inside now looking out, these faces were in the window. Are they trapped in the window? Are they gone now, I don’t know. I do know Phil wasn’t the only one that saw them. Beth also saw these faces on or would you say these faces in her window looking at her.

These were some of the more tame things that happened. It soon escalated and became violent. In the living room one of the daughters had a lamp chucked at her in, I am just taking an educated guess and saying it was Laura. Since the house seemed to target her mostly, and seemed to also feed off her. When someone is mentally unstable or non-neurotypical an entity will feed off them. I know for sure she was depressed. I don’t know if she had any other mental disorder. When she was 12 and Mary was 11 she told Mary that she would die in her 30s. Which she did, she died when she was almost 32 from suicide she was in and out of mental hospitals for self harm and it could subsist, because of the house did something to her. The house maybe broke her and kept a piece of her when the family left. Mary always thought Laura’s death had to of been foul play and thinks Laura would never of committed suicide, who knows. 

Besides the lamp being chucked at one of the daughters there was more. Ashtrays were falling, statues were falling off furniture, knives or letter openers were getting put into pictures mostly into the kids photos, and more. Clara saw one of the letter openers hovering in front of a picture of the family and when she caught sight of the letter opener it  fell to the ground. It was as if the entity was never there, but she saw it floating going in for one of her children, in the photo. This was just the beginning though.

Now you all my stance on Ouija boards don’t even touch them right? Well their daughters’ did Mary and Laura used one. They were probably asking some questions like normal or just messing around or so they thought. So what happened when they were playing with this Ouija board? A doll named Mary came flying off the shelf and smashed on the floor. I’m guessing they burned the board. (Wrong thing to do mate)

What else leads some people to believe that a demon resides there and it is not just a dark entity, or if your Dan is a bastard spirit. During the stay of the Dandy family Mary’s room was uninhabitable. She tried to sleep there but she would wake up from nightmares and go to either Beth’s room which was downstairs literally under her room. Mary’s other option was her parents room just outside her bedroom door, for the rest of the night. 

Mary’s room

It eventually got too much when the family started receiving random burns and scratches on their bodies and locked Mary’s room up besides when she wanted to get a toy out of her room. Mary mostly slept in the master bedroom when they were in the Hinsdale house. The Dandy family said it was too much after two animals if I remember correctly died in Mary’s room within two months and locked the door. They basically threw away the key and never entered again.

The Dandy’s had many animals: a dog, one cat, one raccoon, two finches, one canary,  two parakeets, and three guinea pigs which all died in this house. When they had their dog he/she would find bones by the pond and bring them back inside to someone or to just chew on them. Clara didn’t think of it at the time and would probably just throw it out. So we can’t tell if the bones were human or animal.

We do know Phil wasn’t always at the house, but when he was there was a retaliation. He started losing memory, having amnesia, when the most violent attacks happened. Though there is not much evidence of it recorded, once this all came together to a peak Clara contacted a Priest. Along with this most people think the house targeted Laura, but I believe it targeted everyone mentally, trying to scare them away from the house they loved. But this house did also attack Beth more than others well besides from Laura, her eyes changed color,  what happened to her arm, her seeing the faces, and more. Why is that? Maybe she had a sixth sense, but Laura’s was more powerful and that is why she was targeted. 

The Priest they contacted was Father Alphonsus, who worked at St. Bonaventure University at the time. He didn’t know the history of the house and thought it might help to know the history. So they could understand what or who is haunting the house and land they were living on. So Father Alphonsus brought in Alex Tanous a psychic and parapsychologist. Alex worked at the same University with Father Alphonsus, when he got there he did a reading of the land. He got seven spirits on the land the exact same amount the Dandy’s, their friends, and other family members who have visited, have seen/felt. Image being validated like this? That there are seven spirits on the land and you aren’t crazy like you thought you were.

Alex also sensed this house was an inn at one point, and was used to lure people in to kill and rob them. He sensed the folklore of the brothers now if we took this as real proof, then yes they were killers, but we can’t take everything a psychic or medium says as a fact. We normally follow up on what either of them says no matter what they say or at least take it with a grain of salt. He also got the picture in his mind that there was a way station nearby and there was one behind the house, just as they have found out in recent years. 

Now that the family knows why they might be haunted Alex and his team came in and did a house cleansing. It worked for a bit, before the house started haunting them again. Father Alphonsus then decided that God would draw the evil out of the house and held a mass in the kitchen. The mass that was held worked for a while before the spirits came back. Father Alphonsus and Alex’s paranormal investigative crew tried one last ditch effort of a house exorcism or deliverance, it lasted for a few days. It was performed on April 13, 1973 and they left in 1974. This exorcism was filmed and a written copy was filed away. This all went down in a few minutes.  When this exorcism was being performed it sounded like a cat meowing, a banshee screaming, and a baby crying. On top of that the house was shaking in it’s foundation. The house retaliated and one of the windows broke shattering inwards. They did ask Father Alphonsus what to do after the hauntings came back yet again, his answer was get out there. 

Before we leave the Dandy family behind they did have Ed and Lorraine Warren come and investigate the house. They said something weird was definitely there and needed to be investigated, but then left. 

Michael drove home with a buddy on McMahon road on October 21, 1973 just days after Alex was there. They got in a major car accident. State troopers went back and looked at his car and the crash site they never found evidence that another person was in his car at the time of the crash. Michael almost died that day actually he was supposed to die. He had a ruptured spleen and head injuries. Though he didn’t die and lived many more years till a minor car accident killed him from a brain aneurysm. 

The same thing happened this time he was in a car accident with a pretty blonde woman. There is an impression of her head on the dash, but otherwise there is no evidence she was there. He woke up and asked about the blonde women, but forgot about the accident eventually and died. His mother had to take her time to get to the hospital since her back was broken at the time. He passed away in his sleep, but the doctor said he passed away from the previous accident because he had brain damage which could have caused his death. She believes that the Hinsdale house is slowly taking her children back one by one. First Laura and now Michael just a few years ago. 

At the house Beth’s eyes would change color. I believe they were green to blue and an optometrist does say under extreme stress eye color can change. The Dandy’s rented this home if I am right, and might have had to break the lease to move because of the hauntings. Since Dona owned the house till 2015. 

We now have to leave the Dandy family since they left Hinsdale at the ages of 17 Michael, 16 Beth, 12 Laura, 11 Mary, 39 Phil, and 37 Clara. They moved out of the house because the hauntings became too much for them. They first moved to California where Phil and Clara divorced in 1980. Clara is now back to her maiden name Miler. Eventually she moved to Oregon and then eventually moved in with her mother in a new city in Oregon.  

We don’t know everyone who lived in the house after the Dandy’s but it was rented out to many families. No family stayed longer than six months one family only lasted two weeks. Some family’s just up and left everything they owned in the house. Since they didn’t want to let the spirits know they left. The families said when asked what to do with their things burn it, donate it, they didn’t care. What did these families see there? What happened to them to traumatize them so much? Was it and why is it so haunted after the Dandy’s left? 

During these times Dona Reiss sold off 90 acres of the land. The Misnik’s and everyone after them only had 10 acres of land to live on, still a decent amount. Most of this land was sold off to hunters, and do know the current owner wants the land back. What I want to know is there other hauntings besides the chanting and drumming on their land?

Then in 1986 the Misnik’s moved in. Flo and Joe were an elderly couple in their 60s and Flo wasn’t in such great health while they lived there. This was their final home, the one they would die in. They bought this house sense they fell in love with it and didn’t care if it was haunted or not. They were definitely aware of the house’s dark past since it was so highly publicized back then. 

The Misnik’s lived there for awhile and in order to do so  they made a deal with the spirits. Joe basically stated if you leave us alone will leave you alone. Though I think Flo was the one with the moxie and made a deal with the spirits in the middle of the kitchen she said you can stay here if you want but we’re not leaving. 

Flo and Joe

Though they did see quite a few entities Flo saw at least one entity at the edge of the bed. The entity had a plaid shirt on, blue jeans, and was holding a rifle. Flo asked him what he was doing there he said he didn’t know then disappeared. On multiple occasions they have reported phantom cars, revving car sounds, then when they check it out no car is in sight. Some people say the car sounds could very well be the buzz saw that killed the child in 1942. 

The Misnik’s report the smell of cigar smoke wafting through the air. They didn’t smoke so it couldn’t be from them. The pair of them never felt anything evil or dangerous happened, but it definitely was haunted. They have also seen blue orbs, that could be dust. Joe a veteran would tell tales of UFOs in the air and had tried to film them only getting one good video if you do believe. These tales were seen out at sea while he was fighting for WWII. 

While there Joe and Flo would never pay off their lease like they wanted too, so it could be turned into a paranormal research facility. Before that could happen they had the house in disarray. Flo loved her dolls and still does. They needed to replace the roof, the siding, and more repair work needed to be done. They never did get it done, since they were of course older and could barely pay for the house already. 

They did have a physic friend Michael Rambacher who invested the paranormal and he wanted the Misnik’s to be able to pay off the house. He wanted the house and land to be donated so it could be used as a paranormal research facility. They even reached out to Alex Tanous project in Portland, Maine for backing to help get it up and going. They sent Timothy Barth to the Hinsdale house and he had this to say: “If stuff is really ongoing up there, it could be a real opportunity for someone,” said Timothy, a professor of parapsychology. “These things don’t happen on a schedule. In order to document them, you need something set up 24/7 for an extended period of time.” 

Rambacher wrote the article this it what it said.

Now time passes on and in 1999 a pair of brothers were fighting on nearby property. Eventually David Simpson killed his brother Danny Simpson, by accident. He eventually pleaded guilty to manslaughter. Is Danny a soul who was taken so soon on the property today? It seems like this house pulls souls into it the damaged, weak, suffering, and strong, why?

While that happened Joe and Flo still lived in the house up until they died, Joe died in the house. He was confirmed dead at Olean’s hospital on August 21, 2010. Flo lived for another two months till she had a heart attack, she was then revived then stayed with her family in Buffalo where she died, on October 23, 2010. Did she die from a broken heart or just bad health?

Now no one lived in the house, but it is still owned by Dona Reiss. I am guessing Dona may have done a lease to own, where part of the money you pay monthly goes to the down payment. There is a catch though it had to be within a period of time, when you decide if you want to buy the house. So did the Dandy’s actually make this deal or just rented from Dona? Dona might not have survived to 2015 so Dona could’ve deeded Hinsdale house to the rest of her company.

Now we time skip and we find out there is a new paranormal team that was interested in this house. The lead of the team is Bill Conelly, he rented the house from Dona. But he wasn’t there most of the time since he lived in Edmonton, Canada at the time. This drive was over a day or 2,192 miles or 2,187 miles depending on the path that he took. Bill would never ok not never but rarely answer the questions his team asked him about fixing up the house. He would rarely come to Hinsdale or the town near it, so his team was flying solo. Eventually he kind of left the house to itself and his team stopped trying overall and left. 

He was asked by Michael and his girlfriend if I remember right why he abandoned the house. Bill answered, “this house is evil, I want nothing to do with it.” Before it was left to mother nature Bill’s team emptied it out and gutted it. Dona made plans to destroy this house and it was Dan thinking over it with his wife trying to buy it, that made the demolition stop.

In 2014 I believe Dan Klaes went to the Hinsdale house to just do a paranormal investigation, but it was like something eating away at the back of his mind. This thing told him to buy this house and he did buy off of Dona Reiss finally in 2015, someone unload this house from her in the end for good. Dan two weeks prior to just bought his house in Buffalo, for him and his family. Now he has two houses, a family to worry about, and to pay for. The house is completely bare and ready for a new look on life.

This paranormal experience was…Flo. He was there investigating and they were talking to the entities as you do. When they ask if it was Flo I believe the K2 meter spiked. The investigator asked a few questions to establish if it was truly Flo. One of the last questions was if Flo could his hand going upstairs and she did hold his hand all the way up the stairs and through the master bedroom. Then Flo stopped holding the investigators hand when he tried to bring her into Mary’s bedroom, she would not cross that threshold. The investigator went back out and asked if she was still there and no more spikes to his questions, why is that? What don’t we know about Mary’s room still?

Dan has three, three inch binders of history on the Hinsdale house, I believe. So much history on one piece of land, what else has happened here that we don’t know about? How much recorded evidence is true and what is false only time will tell.

Dan eventually went back up there and started taking note of what needed to be taken care of. The grass was four feet tall, imagine that? He has taken care of the septic tank replacing it and with that he found a few arrow heads. Restored the bathroom, when ripping out the bathroom floor boards there were four layers, one layer was the door to the bathroom. In the layers were two bull heads one by the sink and the other in the left corner by the wall. Dan replaced the roof and siding of the house. He had to replace part of the kitchen because of black mold. There have been many more updates and renovations and will be more in the future. 

In the future Dan is planning to move Mary’s bedroom window to the left side of the house, to where it was originally. The house has been added onto since the original structure from 1853. It was originally just the kitchen, basement, Michael’s room, and the bathroom. The additions were the living room, Beth’s room, the master bedroom, Laura’s room which was a bathroom at one point, stairs were needed to get up, and Mary’s room. No one is around four to five football fields, American ones. 

What most of the house and land looks like

Along with that Dan has experienced many break ins as did the Dandy’s. When no one lived there Paul and his friends watched over it, keeping out the looky loos. Eventually Dan had enough and put up bars up on the windows and doors. Most people just wanted to see the haunted Hinsdale house and stole nothing, but some did vandalize the house. 

Dan wants to put the house back into the 1970s when it was most active. So far he has retrieved a few donated beds, a trunk he bought for 4x the price, a couch, and the kitchen table. They probably have gotten many other items now. Most are from the families that lived there or they buy them from the families, most of the time. Dan also got Flo’s angle back. The angle is missing an eye and moves when it is not plugged in even. 

Along with all those renovations  Dan had to have a beekeeper come in and remove a pretty large and nasty nest of bees. This nest was in Mary’s room, it was 500,000 bees and about 4 feet. He called three different companies only one would and did remove it safely and effectively, plus got all of it out of the floor, so no bees could return. Since we want to save as many bees as possible, now a bee farm in Hinsdale sells Haunted Honey, sounds yummy to me. These bees and other insects have tried to come back. Insects tend to swarm to Mary’s room year round, is this because there is a supposed portal there, or maybe a demonic entity is in that room? Why would these insects just come to that room so much, is there an underlying reason we can’t find?  

Dan has a display glass case inside in the living room where the exorcism happened. This case holds the arrow heads, the original mask kit used in the exorcism in the Hinsdale house, and other artifacts that have been found on this land. The pond here has been flooding so Dan put in 4 tons of limestone to help with it folding. There is the woods out back and Dan was walking back to the house with a Geobox in hand when he slipped and fell. He held the Geobox above his head as he fell getting scratches and bruises all over protecting the Geobox with his body. So he had a contractor come out and had steps put in. These steps are railway ties so you can still fall but you won’t go from the top of the hill all the way to the bottom. 

The beehive

Well tearing down walls and ripping up floors Dan found a letter from one of the Dandy’s girls. In the walls the team found a jacket it was still intact, covered in blood with animal bones. This jacket looked to be African, Reverend Tim Shaw has said when he went to the house. While we’re in this time period there was a person who had an exorcism in this house within the last 10 years we believe. I am not positive, there also might have been another house exorcism in the early 1900s not confirmed just word of mouth. 

Well tearing down some of the rotten wood from the basement Dan found some ok wood he saved for a friend. This friend was Jeff Fent, Jeff makes ghost boxes out of anything almost. Jeff came to the Hinsdale house to pick up the wood and went back to his house. At his home he got to work making a ghost box out of the wood for Dan. In a chunk of wood Jeff found a bullet it was bigger than a 56 they believe, so it was maybe from The Civil War (they believe) and then was used to build the house. I am just taking a guess this bullet was from the War of 1812 or just from a random shoot out not the civil war, unless the basement had been redone or built later on after 1865.

Dan takes a $300 payment for a team investigation. If you can’t pay that donations are welcomed. Plus he will do single investigators and pair you up with other people for an investigation. Each team’s payment for an investigation is put back into the land and the house, he wants to buy back the property. Once he gets some of the property back he wants to build two cabins on it. One will be a museum and the other will be a paranormal base. In the museum he wants to show Hinsdale history and some of the haunted history of the house. He has the mask kit from the original exorcism from the Dandy family and arrow heads. He has collected many more artifacts for the museum already having big plans for the future. 

The paranormal base will be for teams to be able to recharge and watch their team members from inside. It will also be used as a paranormal research base so new experiments and new findings can and will be recorded there. He already has a notebook filled up with many different encounters of what many teams have seen, felt, heard, and more. Hopefully this gets built in the near future. 

Can you believe there are more paranormal experiences since Flo and Joe lived there. The many teams that have been to the Hinsdale house have captured many EVPs, EMFs, shadow figures, full body apparitions, just a presence felt, and maybe more. The most common herd EVP is `get out ‘ why? Who knows, maybe because the house doesn’t like every person that enters.

Some crews that have entered have been chased out by a shadow figure, this shadow figure’s name might be Wilhelm or Billy or The Dark One. Most people that come here go to The Offering Tree that is in the woods. The Offering Tree is for the Native Americans, you would give in the offering tobacco and send a wish/prayer to the entity you align yourself with. Hopefully the wish/prayer will be granted one day. 

Now if you don’t think this place is haunted yet, many people have come here and also left too, believing more than ever in the paranormal. Nick Groff and Katrina Weidman who were on Paranormal Lockdown together. They were introduced to the house by Tim Shaw, he told them the history of the house and that he believes Mary’s room is the heart of the house. Why, because when the Dandy family was there her room was the only room uninhabitable, which normally means the haunting is demonic. While filming the show or should I say watching, they stay for 72 hours and Nick wants to know for the whole stay what is up with Mary’s room. 

So much so he basically forces himself to try and sleep in her room, he couldn’t do it. So he slept on a cot right outside her door. They got an EVP in the basement saying “where’s Nick?” On the third and final night Nick was inside and Katrina was out in the woods investigating when Nick screamed. When Katrina got there his eyes had changed and his whole demeanor did too. Once home a dark entity had followed them from the Hinsdale house. Several nights in row Nick woke up at 3am constantly till he cleansed his home and himself of the dark entity that followed him.  

Other shows were A Haunting, by the discovery channel in 2006. The movie Hinsdale house, in 2019 an Indi movie on a low budget. They didn’t investigate the house, it was just a thriller movie. There was another doca-horror movie made with Clara and Michael narrating the whole thing, but they had two kids instead of four kids. A Dark Forest a Haunting, is also about the Hinsdale house.  

Nick and Katrina

Now before we go any further if you aren’t a ghost hunter or a paranormal enthusiast you probably don’t know the names of the equipment, they use. So if you want to go through and read this beforehand click me

Now when you go into a haunted location, you need an open mind, but not to open otherwise something might follow you home. A skeptic went into the house and forgot to turn on the spirit box while in the basement. So we don’t know if anything tried to talk to her. But she did use an Ouija board with her mother who is also a skeptic. Well using the Ouija board for some reason they were also using the Phasmabox. Which said “1968,” “1964” “Baker,” “Fuck you,” “clean” and “1756.” 

This team apparently got bored and needed to add more excitement to the video so they opened a dybbuk box. Inside was a photo, necklace, a flower, and a couple other things. Britt the daughter was trying to ask the entities who were in the photo when a claw reached over her shoulder. In the photo is Erek the baby we never got the answer for the mother, they were Native American’s. When the box was bought no one knew what was inside it and that there was ties to Native Americans in the box or on the land. It could for all we know be planned out or one big coincidence.

When the team Resident Undead came to investigate the Hinsdale house. The team was Adam the lead investigator, Rebecca the psychic, and then Ashely the investigator showed up later. When they pulled up in the car they both felt anger but I believe Adam felt it more than Rebecca. She said it is normal to feel and that there was a Native American with a big black wingspan who protects the house and keeps the evil in, or that is what she saw. Rebecca is a psychic and sees many more things on this property, then is visible with the human eye. But Adam after she told him and the camera about the Native who protects the land storms off to cool down.

Once inside they talk briefly about the land before doing their first quarantine, Ashely goes first. Adam and Rebecca go to the mobile command unit they have set up in a U-Haul and watch from there, with a walkie talkie too. Rebecca was able to tell the entity was human and was trying to put off he was a demon. This entity made Ashley dizzy, a weird charge was felt in the living room. He made his present known because you could hear breathing that wasn’t Ashely’s. Some of the EVPs captured on the pandoras were “I’ve been bad,” “I’ll make you love me,” “there is nothing good,” “you’re going to get pain for it,” and “look at me.” 

Then the team got back together talked about what happened there and did a short EVP session, before doing a reenactment or a rift which ever you wish to call them. The first one the team did was the exorcism it took a few minutes at most. During this rift we got almost ten EVPs, a few of them are “I am Lucifer,” “I hurt other people and come get me,” “Jesus Christ,” and “Demon hunter.” After this rift was performed Rebecca read her notes of what happened during it and boy did some things go down. 

During the rift there were echoes of children laughing in the walls and coming off the walls. A wall of secrets, a face pressing through a wall means it has secrets. A little girl was seen, who could be Laura you never know. This little girl walked into the room and started crying, she then wanted to be picked up by Adam. After she was refused being picked up the little girl started doing inappropriate things, this was lifting her dress up and said I’ll show what’s underneath. This little girl entity could be demonic. That is all Rebecca got from that rift.

Next Rebecca was quarantined and she got a few EVPs. By now she was feeling frustrated since the one entity was slimy and she could just barely grasp him then he got away. The EVPs where “this is going to be fun,” “I’ll never talk to you,” “it would break your heart,” “I would not,” and through her gift she got “you’ll me see for what I am.” Which Rebecca and the crew already thought they saw the entity for what they are. What don’t they see this entity as and what is the entity’s true colors?

After this they did a second rift, throughout the night they have been sensing domestic violence an entity who had hurt somebody and now he morphed into that anger. So the second rift was sent off to trigger his love for his girl and his one human memory left. Again EVPs happened apparently some entities like to gossip who knew. The EVPs where “I knew they were together,” “I am going to rape you,” “you scared her,” “he knows what happened,” “God dammit you hate me,” and “they’ll remember you.” 

At first Rebecca didn’t feel much till she just got this rush of emotions. Somehow the words tick tock tick tock are associated with domestic violence here. There was a little girl covering her ears on the stairs. Then after the loop ended Ashely said “I’m not going to have a voice tomorrow.” Almost all three of them were not paying attention, but Rebecca caught what was said “there’s not going to be a tomorrow.” 

They got their pandoras boxes and captured “I made it happen.” Right as the floor vibrated, did the entity do it or was there an earthquake, but in Western New York there aren’t many earthquakes. 

Then Adam quarantined himself and asked questions with a bit of provoking with almost ten EVPs heard. They were “ I want to fight,” “Demon,” “I know,” “listen to him,” “the end is near,” “you would rather die,” and “ you think you’re so different from me, my dreams died and yours will too.” This entity he is talking to sees the same amount of anger in Adam as they had when they lashed out, but Adam said he uses his for good not for evil. Not to hurt people he loves.

When they left the house and land, it was fed nicely from the rifts. The team stated it was now set in stone that this was part of the house’s history. That the one entity they talked to for most of the night with the domestic violence tendencies, loved his girl and his happiest memory with her was dancing. He would go off at her for nothing, in the end she had enough and killed him.

The team Ghost Finders had come to Hinsdale at the time they had a guest investigator named Anna, Megan is the witch, and Rob the lead investigator and medium. Rob and Dan were talking when he started feeling an entity. He felt that the dark entity that plagues these grounds wasn’t there that day, and isn’t tied to the house or land. He did feel a 6 foot 5 inch Native American and this hill where the house is located is sacred to his people. Afterwards they go into Mary’s room Rob felt absolute despair, “just let it end,” “what have I done to have this happen to me,” overall guilt, maybe her room is vortex. 

Anna then set up a music box in the psychosomatic chamber and scanned for any electronic devices first with an EMF detector, there was none. She starts asking questions and the first turn of the key on the music box scared the crap out of everyone even the cameraman, he almost dropped the camera. Eventually Anna got in total six turns not full turns just baby ones. This was one of the first cases where I watched that more than one person got touched. Rob got touched twice, but one time he and Anna got touched at the same time. Making them both jump and leaving Mary’s room I believe. 

Megan starts out with two pagan rituals to bless and sweeten the soil, land, and the ancient spirits. There were wolf howls, whistling, and drumming it could be heard from the outside team and inside team even when Anna was inside the closet. Megan investigated the woods, she was drawn back to the dead section of the woods. This is when she performed the second ritual for giving back to the Earth and the Natives. The cameraman was told to pan around the area, and if they saw eyes don’t be alarmed. These eyes were the Natives Ones looking at them, I saw two different sets of eyes one above Megan and another to her right. In the middle of this ceremony they heard the wolf howls and carried on, once done the team headed back to the house.

A team called Haunt Me and the Newkirk’s came to Hinsdale. The teams consist of Ty the techy, Carol the investigator, Katie the psychic I believe, Greg Newkirk the investigator, and Donna I believe a psychic (his wife). Katie when they first got there experienced heavy headaches to euphoria. She saw an entity by the pond and asked if they wanted to come inside and they shook their head. She heard them say, what is outside is outside what is inside is inside.

Before they started they were doing interviews and the caretaker’s son, who has disabilities, came over and was asked if he wanted to be on camera with Carol he is non-verbal or rarely talks I’m guessing, so no biggie. He just gestured a big smile like one a joker would paint on their face, then left. Once all set they set up a safe spot in case they felt drained or unsafe in the house which was the campfire.

There was a lot of activity that night knocking, whispering from Mary’s room, noise from the kitchen, an energy shift, pops, and footsteps upstairs. Some EVPs were recorded  on a DR60 “get out of my house little boy,” laughing, “yes.” Then the team asked what the house wanted from them that night it replied “energy.” After the reply Carol I believe said it all made sense. 

After that answer they brought in their special weapon Billy a statue. Billy is a haunted statue thought to be evil but turns out to be just misunderstood. They use him to help investigate hauntings and communications for them at times. They even asked if Billy is up for the task and he said he was. So they took Billy into the Hinsdale House, with him they entered the upstairs which was a thick energy and drained ten times worse than downstairs. 

This house is conscious, because it drained the team they went to recharge before going back inside. A few of the team members I remember Carol was nodding off, but when they got outside they were fine. Eventually they went back inside and did a Tarot card reading and Katie got a Knight of Pentacles, Queen of Swords, and Two of Swords. Knight of Pentacles means someone watching over the land. Queen of Swords means a woman who regains over her mind but she has given up. She has her sword at her side, no longer willing to defend herself. Two of Swords means swords of peace I think, and they interpreted it as they are one of the swords of peace.

Then Dona and Katie asked if the house heard them talking about the Tarot cards upstairs you could hear a knock in reply. Does this mean the house is self aware or is it just an entity messing with us? Well at the Hinsdale house the team made a good new tool, it was the Well of Intentions. This is a Scrying Mirror, the team had to activate it first with painting their personal sigil on the back and saying good intentions. If you are wondering what a Scrying Mirror is it is a mirror painted black basically. 

A Scrying mirror

With this new mirror with all good put into it unlike the dybbuk box its counterpart in the Newkirk’s traveling museum. They decided to use it for the first time in the Hinsdale house. Where they put the mirror was in Mary’s room, a person showed up in the mirror they felt this person was sinister. You could faintly hear knocking from this person and whimpering, then a tapped followed. Eventually Ty and Greg saw faces flashing by, trees, lights, symbols, and bees. 

If you know anything about mirrors you know they are portals to another world, this one is safer because it is just a communication device. They made it so no entity no matter how powerful can break through and come to our realm they can show themselves and talk to us, but entering our realm is not possible, hopefully.    

Near the end of the night everyone was dead on their feet and trying to stay awake. Well Carol was looking in the mirror for some reason and saw a face over her shoulder. It made the same joker face the caretaker’s son did 12 hours ago. They learned the house is a jokester. It likes to prank people and never give out full information. 

The Bearfort paranormal team had three people: Sandra, an investigator, Bob the lead investigator, and Steve who is the team’s medium. Once there Steve stayed outside as Sandra and Bob went inside to get the history of the land, and Steve was drawn to the pond. Steve felt before the investigation fully started a fun house effect. There are many entities on the lower level that can’t or don’t show themselves till this day. Steve also feels that there are many vortexes and doors that are open at the Hinsdale house which makes it unable for every entity to leave fully. The entities are mad from the exorcism that happened when the Dandy’s lived there. Why, because they aren’t allowed to leave or it was like locking them in when they can’t go because of some unknown reason.

They recorded an EVP session and got a pretty good amount of interactions. Some of them were “yes you can,” “I need help,” “looking back I did,” “fuck you,” “Sandra,” and “let them panic.” Eventually they asked if the entities like what Dan is doing to the house and caught “yes,” “don’t tear down the house,” and “he cares.” As they talked to the entities one of the investigators had an acidic taste in their mouth. They used a ghost laser grid and captured on screen a stick figure in Laura’s room and then in the stairway for a monetary second each time.

What it looks like on the laser gird

The team then came downstairs to record another EPV session on the Spirit box, which had a crystal attached to the antenna. This time it malfunctioned, the Spirit box played “Pray For You.” Eventually they got the spirit box fixed and swept the radio stations at 150 hertz, I believe on the FM radio. Then some disturbing EVPs came rolling in “Sandra” repeatedly, “hello,” “Sandra your boyfriend,” “two,” “we live here-two” maybe it was meant to be too, “fuck them,” “help,” “Mary,” “ will you shut up” “alive or a lie,” “don’t let them go,” and “portal.” 

After this encounter two gifted humans have said this house is alive or at least has some form of a conscious mind. On the Portal Box they were able to capture some more EVPs from other different entities. They got almost ten answers again “Bob,” “girl,” “hey Bob,” “stay” “wait,” “witchcraft,” “free yeah,” and “move your ass boy.” When they were talking to these entities Steve felt a very depleted entity in the living room that couldn’t or wasn’t allowed to communicate. 

They then used the Ovilus and got a few words only, not much communication through this communication tool came through. The EVPs were “first,” “toward,” “fatal,” “second,” “anger,” and “phantom.” During this time they caught a face peeling out of the wall, it was barely noticeable to the naked eye so in the video they slow it down and have an arrow just above where it comes out of the wall. Before they saw the face there were a few orbs caught on camera.  

I know you’re probably bored of this team by now, but there is more evidence to share. So the entities wouldn’t follow them home they do two different groundings, one before and one after. The one before the investigation was coincidentally done by the hanging tree or close to it. They did a short prayer and meditation session beforehand. They didn’t find out that area where they did the grounding was the hanging tree until they were told, by Mary Bell, the caretaker. They did the second grounding at the same spot and the same thing a quick prayer and meditation closing themselves from the house. 

Once on the land they told their intentions of being there and gave an offering of tobacco. This is the time where Bob and Sandra went inside and Steve walked the grounds. Before the second EVP session happened Steve told Bob and Sandra of his “downloads” on the history of the land. He got it basically spot on and even saw Elizabeth was hung, the Native American’s, and more. Well the EVP session was being done down stairs on the Spirit box the team was almost in a trance like state. The team didn’t notice the Spirit box saying Sandra repeatedly. 

They finally left soon after this not feeling welcomed, once back at their hotel Steve made them promise to never come back to this house. Since it was Sandra who was drawn to the house and totally forgot to mention the failed exorcism. So they emailed Dan and asked if they could come back the next night while they were still there, and he said yes. 

Once there Steve got out and looked down at his seat and saw a deep claw mark, of unknown origin. It wasn’t from any of their equipment since he was sitting in the passenger seat. Once they saw the claw mark they proceed to not investigate for the second night. Which was weird this car was brand new only a week old as of then. Once again car issues followed this team, for the next year they had a lot of mechanical issues. 

If you didn’t like the lack of luster information Nick Groff gave you about the entity following him home well this team sure gave you more information. They had a shadow figure/dark figure pass by the window, when Sandra and Steve were home. They didn’t speak of it for a few days hoping it would go away or it was their imagination. Sadly it wasn’t going away, eventually this dark figure made its way inside. They had to take extreme measures to get rid of this dark presence that was targeting Steve. Since they have been there the house still calls for them to come back, yearning to spook them more. Sandra believes that they are a part of the history of the house now and they lost a part of them that night. Since this took such a toll on them it took a year for them to edit and upload to YouTube. 

The team Virgin Paranormal was up there with another team, but I watched Virginia Paranormal. I bet there are both good, there team members are Jeff, Kyle(f), Linda, and David. The other team was watching over the static cams of the stairs and saw an orb on it. This orb looked like it was walking down it. Was this orb walking down the stairs or is it just a light anomaly? Before the teams barely got into anything, Brenda and Kyle (m) just turned the rem-pod on and it went crazy it stayed on longer than before. So Brenda turned it back off then on and the rem-pod did it again, so  Kyle (m) asked if the entity would do it again once they left and it beeped once again. Is this just a coincidence or a very powerful entity that wants them to know they are there. 

Kyle (f) was waiting for Linda to come outside when she heard a voice and just thought it was the other team doing an EVP session inside, it wasn’t. Kyle started to grow uneasy and she felt something or someone watching her and starting walking to the house. The feeling got more intense as she felt someone running after her now so she bolted to the door of the house. Once inside she was out of breath and looked like a deer caught in headlights. 

Kyle (f)  and David were out in the woods going to do an EVP session at the Offering Tree. When they saw a light it was a small pinpoint size yellow in color with a shadow figure walking holding the light. They say the light three times and ran away from it each and every time. Each time coming back the entity got stronger. This entity was over by the pound, this entity was holding a lamp or flash light. Kyle thinks this entity was trying to scare them away. 

Once at The Offering Tree Kyle (f) and David tried to do an EVP session with a Spirit box. It did sweep forward like it should but it only played one station for answers, I think that is what they mean. They tried very little to provoke the entities up near The Offering Tree. The radio station that played was a religion station each time, it played “we’re coming,” “you give us freedom.” Each time David heard an answer or if you just think it was glitch David saw a light. So they got out of there. 

While both teams were doing an EVP session in the living room they heard a knocking on the outside wall. It was so powerful the vibrations were felt on the floor. Two of the other investigators went outside Virginia paranormal meant them outside after a few minutes. They felt as if this entity was trying to separate them and playing mind tricks on them. 

They had a camera situated on pipe pointed at the door I believe. This camera fell off the pipe it was located on. This camera is a circle like a flashlight, and fell to the back like it was pushed. It was a windy and lightly snowy night. So if it was the wind it would be a very strong wind to take it off that way. A person could of tripped on the cord and make it fall. If the wind did take it off it would have made it fall to the sides, not the back. Maybe the entity that knocked on the house was letting them know that the camera fell.

How about we take a break from paranormal teams, Mary Bell the caretaker and her son were there one day when he was younger. He was up in Laura’s room and looked out the window and said “Mamma why is there an angry Indian man staring at Daddy?” At the time he didn’t know the history of the land, but now he does. My question, is how did he feel this and how much more can he feel that we don’t. He has also had full conversations with Laura, he is just more open thanks to his disabilities, which are abilities here. Mary his mother has driven past the hanging tree many times but one time, driving past it her radio was off and it turned itself on. I believe Paul Kenyon also spoke about ground lights that are just as they sound. Lights that emanate from the ground with no source, no plugs, no nothing. 

This team is Black Raven Chronicles, Dawn got an image of a scraggly hair, wretched woman, red head, and heavier set. This woman was right up in her face. Dawn thinks this woman caused the manifestation to happen and brought it to her thanks to witchcraft. That is because of karmic energy, but the witch isn’t the negative energy. The negative energy could be a Tulpa, but it doesn’t feel like one fully. This energy is extremely high vibrations of negativity. 

Well Dawn and Michael were walking downstairs to the basement they captured on camera two EVPs, “Dawn” and “they’re here.” Then the team was setting up downstairs for an EVP session when Mike caught on the recorder “help me” a class A EVP. Then they actually turned on the Spirit box and got a few replies that were inaudible but some were audible, “yes,” “mommy,” “Dawn here,” “Priest,” and “go away.” 

Now upstairs the team was set up and asking questions when Michael got taped onto his shoes. While up there they hear many noises downstairs and bangs. The team was outside during the day, by the pond before the whole investigation started. Dawn felt a male presence looking at them from the house. There was also a light anomaly or an orb and knocking on the stairs. 

Behind the Shadows members Cameron the lead investigator, Dan case manager, Ashely psychic and medium, Jason tech manger, Lynn documenter, Dana video, Lewis photographer, Hedi Investigator, and two guest Ty, and Amanda. The first day was most information, but Lynn couldn’t make it that day. When she got there, it felt like something or someone was waiting for her. Tim Shaw and Ashely both saw for a momentary second a shadow figure, I believe in Michael’s room. The team’s Ghost box buzzed even though it was off. The basement is not as big as the original house, it is walled up, nothing much behind the wall anyway just pipes. They caught some EVPs “demon,” “laugh,” “hi,” and “run.” 

Eventually the whole team walked to the woods, and wanted to talk to the entities out there. Ashely felt eyes on her from every angle. One entity rules the woods he wears overalls keeps saying “I’m sorry” over and over again through Ashely. They asked him to come and talk through Ovilus but he wouldn’t and won’t let anyone in the woods come talk through it either. Ashely got the feeling he wasn’t happy nor angry they were there in his presence. 

An orb like this one was captured on camera

Ty’s camera battery died, so did Amanda’s flashlight battery. Eventually Amanda walked closer to the entity and just waited for any communication. I don’t believe she got any answers, but Ty got a picture of a blue orb on the left side of her by her ankles. After that she had to get out of that spot, she needed to sit down. Once she did they got the answers “shot” and “squeeze” as if he was squeezing the life out of her, she couldn’t breath. Ashely told this entity to back off she wasn’t his next victim, he had already killed so many we believe. That is why he controls the forest. The tortured 15 souls stand behind him. 

Tim Shaw captured a particle leg on the staircase, no foot actually touching the stairs. There was another apparition seen they believe she was wearing a white polyester top, a pair of bell bottom jeans, and canvas sneakers. This apparition was seen for longer than a blink for almost a minute Tim Shaw thinks.

Ecto Vision paranormal team members Eric, Shawn, Amber, Tom, Bobby, Marcus, Chris, and Mike. Eric met a psychic named Amy in the basement and interviewed her there. Amy said the psychics that come there often, pick up on a dark entity that has been ramping up in the past three months. The entity wishes to be called Wilhelm but in the basement it says call me Billy. 

Eric then interviewed an investigator who told him of when he was there investigating. He went outside to take photos of the walkway to the doorway to get inside in a burst when in one of the photos he got a shadow figure on camera. This shadow figure was there one photo then gone the next photo, you can see the clear outline of it.

Figure seen in doorway

 Jackie a granddaughter of a former owner of the house, was sitting on the couch, not sleeping the night she stayed, who could? When she felt the cushion go down under her, a few inches not once but twice, a few minutes between each time. 

Denise and a friend were out in the woods walking around when they saw a light in the distance and called the person over them, but this person didn’t come over. So they tried to find their way back to the house in the dark, with a flashlight, but they lost their way. So Denise called for a friend who was by the fire and asked if someone came into the woods, no one did and they rushed back to the fire. 

The team did a Facebook live and were just turning on the static cams when one of the rem-pods goes off. They ask if they could do it again and the entity did make it go off again. While eating dinner at the fire, they caught on camera what sounds like a century old door opening. You can even hear their voices on a different camera. 

Shawn and Marcus use the laser thermometer to look for differences in temperature. The whole thing looked normal until you pointed it at the second wind upstairs, Laura’s room. There was a cold spot there, if you know about these types of thermometers. You know it is reading the reflection not the temperature on the inside. They thought it was clouds or a weather pattern or something else entirely. So they tried to recreate it, but they couldn’t. They even tried at an early time the next day. 

While that was going on the parapooch sounded off twice so Bobby and Chris went outside to not contaminate evidence. But once the thermometer picked up on this abnormality, Amber sent them upstairs. They saw another abnormality on camera that could be a bug, who knows what it was. 

Dan and Clara

They tried asking the parapoch questions and got no answers. Throughout the night before the parapooch was turned off the parapoch the parapoch went off seven times. What a good number right?

Now on the next night some things did happen for sure. They tried a “drum circle” . It wasn’t right at all. They didn’t use a Native American drum, nor did they play Native music, just all wrong, and the entity that answered them agreed on the rem-pod. The team went to the basement to investigate felt and saw many things. Marcus and Mike heard a male voice, I have no clue what they heard. Mike’s hand was cold even though he felt warm to the touch, could of been a draft or something paranormal. Over Eric’s shoulder Marcus, Bobby, and Mike saw a face it was there then gone in a blink. The face had dark hair and two people saw it over one shoulder and one person saw the face over the other shoulder. After that Mike had to get out of there, which he did.

Mike left the house for a bit to calm down and came back still a bit shaken up. In the basement he felt someone sitting there projecting their emotions onto him. He felt uncomfortable, unwanted, you need to go, trespassing, and a place he should not be. In the living room they captured some EVPs as they interviewed Mike. They captured three, they are “guys” a class B, an exhale or “hey you guys” this was also a class B, then an exhale a class A. 

Eric went to the basement to try and talk to the entity that was seen over his shoulder and explained that he can’t feel the spirits like his friends and needs a ghost box. The entity responded “got ya” but if the entity is old I would believe it got you. Then at the end of the night the rem-pod goes off, right before Marcus turned it off.

When in the house and you smell Vicks you may smell Laura unless you are with someone who lives on Vicks. There are many pictures and videos of things going on at the Hinsdale house and one of them is an unknown creature, Jeff Fent came and experimented with different light flitters. Seven or eight feet off the ground he captured a cartoony looking face on the left side. Jeff and Dan went back during the day to make sure it wasn’t a pixelation problem and it wasn’t. There are even videos of what looks like a ground hound moving the sheets on the couch I believe, this was caught on the live cams. There are many more things caught on the live cams, just go watch them and find the unusual.

Now to get into theories. Is there a flap open here? Why would I say that because the haunting is and amping up again, like it was when the Dandy family was there. I am just hoping no one gets hurt in the house, since it has a violent past will it have a violent future? 

Is there ley lines there? I have heard there are crossing negative ley lines under Flo’s chair. Which is why she was always so sick there. I have also read there are crossing ley lines in the pond, but I have a clue if these are negative or positive. 

Some people have heard the heartbeat of the house in the videos I have watched. Is this house alive as the mediums and the psychics have said? Or is this a different reason for hearing the heartbeat. Are they just hearing their own heartbeat?

Is there a wendigo on the property? What is a wendigo are you asking? Well it is a cannibal creature standing over 15 feet tall. They are immortal, have long yellow fangs, glowing eyes, terrible claws, and overly large tongues. Sometimes they are to be naked with yellow sallow skin if they do have hair it is matted. This cryptic is a near perfect hunter, one of their maybe powers is to control weather with their dark magic. Is this cryptic here? Has this wendigo killed before and are they looking for new meat? 

 Is there a different older creature living on the land? Is this creature old than demons, or what we consider demons nowadays. Is this entity more primed, more aggressive than a demon would be. Is that why the exorcism failed? Is the land being haunted or is the house itself? What puzzle pieces are we missing to finish putting this 1,000 puzzle together. Will we ever know?

The house or the entity presenting itself as the house doesn’t give off information easily since it wants people to come back. Why is that? Because this entity wants energy it doesn’t want this case of the haunting solved, it wants to feast. More people are coming to the house and land, which means more energy to have. This entity is like one giant vampire or succubus but way worse, since it has little control. It could possibly kill you, throwing a temperature since sharp objects are everywhere, fine right? I have a feeling there is more than people just getting obsessed, what if the house took a little part of them each time you come and you want to be a part of the history and you are now. But, at what coast?  Is the house slowly sucking your life away?

Some books about this house if you enjoyed this:

You Know They’re Here by Paul Kenyon

Hinsdale House an American Haunting by Daniel Klaes and Tim Joyce

Echoes of a Haunting and Echoes of a Haunting Revisited by Clara 

Mason Winfield has five books out all about the supernatural.

Hinsdale house sources

Onision and Kai

Onision I hope you have heard of him if not I’m pretty sure I can at least tell a little bit. I went and found the Onision public google doc files where it glosses over most things. If you have time to read it or go watch a shit ton of videos, I’ve done both bonus points? Anyway this isn’t really an update for the blog but word vomit since I have been following the Onion boy drama for awhile now. 

I will share some videos for you to watch, mainly Chris Hanson, Repzilla, Repezion, Cecil Mcfly, Drama and Opinions, Blaire White, Medium Rare, Stevie Wolfie, Mikenator, Tommy C’s, SFTP, Bon Bon in the Suit, Pastel Belle, Strange Eno, Ready to Glare, the right opinion, Morgs and probably more. Most of these Youtubers have more than one single video on Greg himself. One video talks about his military service, I have found it but one YouTuber interviewed an ex-classmate of his, the YouTuber is DeVon Taruex. 

He would try and be the class clown and fail each time he got in trouble his mother would bail him out, who isn’t sane herself, I believe she has bipolar. His mother would come down to the high school at least three times a week. He acted like a child then and he is still the same way now he is  just modified for youtube. When he gets in trouble he blames the other person and makes himself the victim. He is always the victim who never does anything wrong, right? 

He says he would be faithful to his wife, but in highschool he would get a girlfriend then cheat on her within a few days to a week and it always made a show in the hallways. I mean he never hit anyone right? Oh wait he has probably done that too, it just isn’t on the internet. I mean he has made people sleep on the floor, shaved one girlfriend’s head oh I mean two, filmed people not fit or willing to be filmed, so who knows what else he has done. He has also pushed a maybe pregnant girlfriend into a door frame because he didn’t want a hug. Like what the fuck? He could have just said no or pushed her away gently or given a hug anyway.  

Sky, Adrienne, and Billie.

He has had many dogs ones that he has gotten on just a whim then when they don’t behave as he wishes he returned them to the original owner or finds a new family for them. He also has had a turtle or tortoise he left the animal outside in a plastic container and cooked it alive. May it and all the animals Greg had found peace or better owners.  

He lives in Washington now with his wife/husband and a year ago I believe he went to court for restoring the wetlands, why is this important you ask? Well he posted a video online of him doing “yard work” and it was him dystoring this land. He was sent to court for this since it was posted online for the world to see, he of course failed in court and is being made to pay back for the damage he did. Though he was Greg made a video for his brand new GoFundMe, which was for the exact amount of money he was being made to pay. He did delete both, but not after taking over $100 from the GoFundMe, which knowing Greg he didn’t even put into the wetland restoration. He restored the lands, but now it is worse than before and he could once again go to court or jail for it. The wetlands are being looked into as well as everything else is, what a joy. We can’t quite nail him for grooming and underage actives with minors but desytoring wetlands fuck yeah!

This is just for his land and animals I will briefly cover his girlfriends. Greg had as we know many girlfriends in highschool, his last one he got in highschool was S they got married right out of highschool. Though he did try and sleep with S’s younger sister at a party when she was under the influence, Greg yells/moans her sisters name when he cums. Is he in love with S’s sister A? Probably, but A will never date him, since she has moved on. Greg has not though A later in life became a sucide girl, if you are not educated they are women who are tattooed and do mostly burlesque shows sometimes fully nude shows. So thanks to the internet Greg got pictures of A to have private time to, which is quite a lot of him wanking it. 

While with S Greg started emotionally cheating on her with Patient Zero, his second public girlfriend. She was from Canada. She was underage when they started skyping. He eventually presented S with papers for her to sign to get divorce. Which it wasn’t legally binding since it wasn’t notarized, just printed offline there at home. S bewirled signed it and thanks to Greg army she and her sister were forced off the internet, A has been online undercover for the past few years though and hopefully will let S use her platform to share her story. S has been here and there during 2012, I don’t know after that but she basically on facebook told Greg she wanted nothing to do with him. Since they dealt with everything they needed to in court. 

So Patient Zero was told later that same day when S signed the divored papers that Greg loved her. She was of course shocked, and thought he was single at the time I believe otherwise they wouldn’t have talked eight or more hours a day over Skype. Patient Zero now 17 came down into America for an opportunity and Greg being him came to her and waited for her mother to be away. Patient Zero went across the hallway of the hotel she was staying in to his room and the first thing he said wasn’t “Hi I love you. How are you?” or anything like that. He instead started kissing her right away and said “I can’t wait to get you pregant,” like what the fuck. Sure some people have their kinks but saying that the first time you have intercourse man dum move. Of course this wouldn’t make it in here unless there was a reason the cops got called and he got his room searched at the hotel. Since he brought his filming equipment they thought he had child porn or was making some. Unluckily it led to nothing that they found, otherwise why would we be interested in this case right now?

So time goes on and Greg moves to Canada to live with Patient Zero till she can move to Washington when she is 18 which comes yay, actually not. Patient Zero and him find an apartment and move in together and do videos, skits all of that most of them ruining her reputation now. She was made to sleep on the floor, eat a vegitrian diet, pleasure him anytime he want (I betting she only got half that or less), he shaved her head in the middle of sex, mad her wear boys clothes, no padded bras, no make-up, nothing femmine, all passwords were given to him, he flimed her having a seziure, a mental breakdow, and he wouldn’t pay for healthcare since she had a miscarge and it didn’t pass so the dead fetuas was possibly going skeptic. This didn’t all happen at once they broke up a lot one big time before she got pregnant and engaged then the miscarge and she went back to Canada. Where she was treated and eventually put into a psych ward. Greg said himself they broke up about fifteen times well they dated. All because he finds one thing he didn’t like and then break up then later that day or week get back together. Which to me seems a bit off.

Before, during and after her sent with Onision.

There was a brief online relationship with Ha. She was known to teach japanese to people on youtube and people really liked her boobs, she is no longer on youtube I think. It didn’t last long, just a few days. He then went looking for another person to eat their emotions he needs that to live. I believe that is why he has never lived alone for too long. He always has somethere, he is like a succubus. Over a forum he found a woman from Texas and they chatted there then exchanged numbers and the very next day he asked her to move in with her. She of course said no, they skyped and text mostly fought though. This realtionship only lasted a few weeks at most though since she didn’t put up with manuplation even though he did fly out to her had sex with her the same way he did with Patient Zero. He luckily only was there for a few days so not that many times he tried to force himself on her. In the three week relationship he asked her to marry him and in a video claimed she asked him. Though since she was a year older he acted like she was his mom. He had a nightmare and he acted like a toddler and she just went back to bed, he was 25 he can deal with a little nightmare. She later on dumped him since he was well Greg and tried to push her to move to LA. Which she did but at her own pace. She is the daughter of Al Jourgensen, the front man and songwriter of the Ministry.

Then we have Cyr who Greg lived with while Patient Zero was getting better since her dad and dad’s friends wanted to go down there and kill the man who hurt his daughter. I mean she should have let him save us trouble but given other people trouble too. I mean homicide unit, unless you hide the body well. YouTube channels die daily. 

He then tweeted out sometime later after breaking up with Adriene “Where is my Soulmate?” to which Talory or now known as Kai replied “Here” since back then tagged or @ a celebrity too much they will reply. If you look at two examples of fans meeting their celebrity crush Kai and Dan, Dan is a better relationship with Phil whether it be dating or not. 

So maybe he does hit?

Kai was 17 when they started officially dating or so we’ve been told. Kai’s dad over dinner told Greg to come back in ten years from then he could date Kai, but they married instead and faked Kai living in a dorm. I would have said never, but oh well. They moved in together and had two kids a girl named after a character in his books that he had intercourse with, but no one else in the book was nice to her so a prediction of the future no I’m guessing she’ll get pity. Though she got so much trauma in the books I’m guessing she wishes when she is older the books were never written, she will be four this year. They did change her name to something different and I’m not going to dox names.

He has a son, also named after a character in his books, but I believe they changed his name since they got so much backlash so they changed it, to his middle name. These books are a mary sue or in male terms a gerry sue a self insert book so take out James the main character and put in Gerg or leave James in since he apparently changed his name to James. He didn’t even write one no he wrote three books and if you have one or more hours free watch some people rip his books to sherds go-ahead. 

So he would give the same rules to Lainybot at the time no femine clothes, let him know your passwords, no smoking weed, co dependence and so on. If you are in a relationship and have an idotic list of rules like this get out hun. He would help build up their career and make them feel good, but from the inside they are falling apart he ripped them away from their family, make them defeminized and more. He makes sure you fully submit to him before anything major happens otherwise he doesn’t know how to handle it. After full control is handed over he would brand you then with a tattoo.

Kai sending nudes, being a monster and being groomed themselves.

Some people say he is a narcissist, sociopath, bipolar, or another mental disorder. I am not doubting he has some sort of mental problem but one that hinders him from telling what is right from wrong isn’t one. Maybe he has sicoprena or borderline I am not a medical professional so I’m just guessing. He has a full conversation with S in his head and the victim blames a lot so who knows, only a medical personal would. I think it would be a great day when he gets medically disgaonoused. 

Now Kai is the newest person grooming and they were hurting people till they dropped off the internet why, because Kai is crying. We also believe Greg could be running a money laundering company or an illegal business. It was exposed on reddit of all places. He of course once owed a lot of money for his taxes and he just paid them in a snap. I know some Youtubers are rich but that rich nah. So what side business does he have? Selling child porn maybe? 

He is getting older not as good at talking to the ladies and Kai is doing well under his wing. So they start talking to underage fans or just of age fans who they date or get pictures of. Some only for days since their parents care for them and said no to flying to Washington alone. Other kids didn’t have as great parents and were already mistreated at home. So it came as no surprise when a fan moved in with them. That fan was Sarha who was in contact with Kai at the age of 14. She flew out there twice but on the last time her mother signed over guardianship to Kai. Which if her home situation was that bad, there are many foster homes she could have gone to. 

So for now this might be the downfall but we have been here before, but we don’t know who will really lead to the capture and imprisonment of both these cruel people. It could be Chris Hanson or the many people on Youtube who have covered it for so long. I don’t think we can thank just one person for his demise but for everyone over the last ten years we can thank them yes. Sense it involves all the internet based community now no can go anywhere without hearing about Onision since he is even in mainstream media. 

But even though Chris Hansen is investing this case as we call it there is a bad side to his team that has come to light. Vincet Nicotra, his media manager, has been abusing the copyright strike system not as much as Greg but anytime someone says something critically or bad about him and Hansen he strikes the video down or has the channel removed all together. He has now claimed he has been working for a year on Pro Streams which is false and is just a free website he took the outline offline and copy and pasted then uploaded it. He has also created another website for people to use like a blogging website from $15 to $50 I think. It is also a free website he took offline and put his touch on before uploading it claiming it took a year or more. He then tweeted a rude meme about Greg saying he took a short bus to school when in school. Which of course got backlash, he took it down and blamed his family and friends for tweeting it then hackers. If a hacker did tweet it, they wouldn’t use the same words he does when tweeting. We got a reply on Chris Hansen’s twitter about Vincet being sorry and all that, plus him being looked into. Vincet is now fired, but Chris was so hesitant to fire him because he hasn’t paid him fully. Vincet also went in and retooled the websites of Chris Hansen and to catch a predator to show a mugshot of Chris Hansen. Vicent also was sent Sarah’s laptop which has evidence on it and he was supposed to send to the FBI, which he hasn’t and hopefully Chris Hansen will now, if it hasn’t already been.

On the stream with Chris and Vincet on January 9, they brought on a lawyer Mike Morse who has 4 sexual assault charges against him. I don’t know how the cases ended but one, the stripper was dismissed, otherwise the other women were workers for him and a college buddy.  Why bring him on when the victims are victims of sexual abuse and more. So please a new lawyer who is maybe a woman they might be more comfortable with a woman.

Greg has done so many scummy things from faking breakdowns, to manipulation. So why not show his penis to his whole YouTube following? Which he did isn’t that big so I’ve heard, I haven’t watched it are you kidding me I don’t want to give him a view. Though he does post a lot of crotch shots and most of the time when he does he has an erection. I do believe he is a sex addict or has a high libito. So gross I would just walk away from him already, but some stay and turn into a monster themselves. 

Greg as we know has a two year old daughter and something I wouldn’t wish on anyone happened to her. Greg was working out in the garage, Kai put her in her bedroom and let her watch tv as Kai was cooking, their five year old was in the living room watching tv/playing video games. Somehow she was able to open the window and fell out the window to the concrete smashing her head falling on top of the screen. So why leave a kid alone when they have a habit of climbing on things? Her bed and window didn’t overlap but kids always find a way. There was no child proofing either and the windows weren’t locked. So when she hit the ground her lungs emptied a loud deep gruntel sound came out. There was a tapping sound, maybe she got up, but I highly doubt it. She laid there as her father ran inside to check on the son because he wasn’t supposed to be outside, but he was inside. So he ran outside and found the little girl lying on the pavement unconscious I believe. He called for Kai and Kai came running outside Kai calls 911 as Greg for some reason video tapes the ground to the window, a two story fall about 12 feet. She was taken away and it was so critical she could have died at any moment. 

The little girl was lucky to survive and will have to battle every day henceforth. She had many fractures and the right side is depressed pressing into her brain. A small suberal hemintional, plural. SDHs are collections of blood the dura and the surface of the brain. The dura is a tough layer between your brain and skull. This can put pressure on the brain and be life-threatening. Subgaleal hematoma, singular. This is scalp bleeding, or when blood accumulates outside the newborn skull. Bleeding and bruising on the brain. Bursuing in particular is also known as cerebral contusions, where it causes blood vessels to break and causes bruises. He handed over the video from his phone and the ring doorbell video, but his other videos nope. Since his house is covered in cameras. 

In 2019 he had 17 visits from the police offers from concerned people about welfare checks on his children and his underage partners. CPS did look into both him and Kai about how they treat their children, but found them fit parents. Hopefully with this news coming to light, the children will be taken away sooner than later, they have already suffered enough. Greg recently just deleted a lot of his tweets off Twitter,he was banned from patron, and twitch but he got back his twitch account. 

Then newer news was Chis Hansen went to Greg’s house and wanted to talk to Greg, but Greg was crowded and called 911. Greg says Chris Hansen is an internet stalker and is being mean to him. He also possibly lied to the cops he might have said he didn’t have a weapon, but in past years he has shown it off and bragged about it. He then was to inpainted to wait for the cops and called back to 911 and asked about where the cops were, and the situation didn’t change at all and she just replied they are coming they have to drive to you. So he waits as he does he probably tweets out something on Twitter honry as ever. The cops are there and get autographs from Chris Hansen and they leave. After that he does a discord call with his fans that of course are underage, telling them that Chris Hansen left out the footage of Chris yelling, which he wasn’t he asked politely to let him in like a good journalist would. 

Then thanks to that Greg thought he was all high and mighty and filed a protective order against Repezion and Chris Hansen. They were both dismissed mainly because Greg will probably file slander against Repezion. The reason he was made to dismiss Chris Hansen’s case was because he filed it against the wrong the wrong Chris Hansen. Repezion made a GoFoundMe to raise money for his court trial money, he raised it all back in minutes. He won’t have to worry for the next trail or two. 

Him at trail and his son oh no wait it’s just him.

There might be a reason why Onision hasn’t gotten kicked off the platform is because he could be a shareholder of YouTube. So the CEO Susan could be turning a blind eye like she does to so many channels today that abuse the system. Hopefully he will be kicked off the platform sooner than later.

There is even more gross tweets like ew you have minors following you.

Sign the petition to get him off youtube. 

http://chng.it/TzV5dkVPJh

The public Google docs

https://docs.google.com/document/d/11h06Xb8mtEGE6G2NTUApb39usNd8jrK-SnNxdrp8a40/edit?usp=drivesdk

Reddit sources

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/dwbgqb/onision_kai_sexually_abuse_their_own_children/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/epr10h/i_have_a_feeling_theres_more_to_the_sarah_story/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/esm381/they_didnt_think_the_bed_frameheadboard/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/erk3l5/the_full_report_warning_child_injury/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/ern9bg/an_official_police_report_confirmed_the_fbi/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/ereozq/cps_report_on_onision_new_document/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/ermbc3/window_fall_injury_summaryexplanation_tw_child/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/etwdlu/the_victims_we_know_about_so_far/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/eslgq3/new_information_phone_calls_as_well_as_a_partial/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/eslisu/the_mishandling_of_sarahs_laptop_and_cell_phone/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/erxewf/stevie_mentions_the_cameras_everywhere/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

https://www.reddit.com/r/Onision/comments/erum7z/flaws_in_the_911_story/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


Iconic corpses

I mean no disrespect to any of the families and I just want to share the crimes and get the stories out there for other people to hear and read about. 

This is actually many cases put together, this might be one of the more tame cases I’ve written about. Today we are going to dive into the cases of iconic corpses. It is a case of a legend, of a true crime, and real life that happened in history. We we will learn about La Pascualita, Carl Tanzler, and a little bit about Lenin. So grab a snack as you read or not it can be a bit gruesome at parts. 

La Pascualita or little Pascual, since her name has been lost in history through the years. Why is she famous, you ask well she lived in Chihuahua Mexico with her mother who ran a bridle shop. Espraza Pascualita who would hand make all the wedding dresses by hand I believe. She did make her daughter’s wedding dress by hand though. 

La Pascualita

La Pascualita died sadly on her wedding day by a black widow spider bite, one source says the spider was in her tira and it got spooked then bite her. She never got to live past her wedding day. Though her mother did, she did close down the shop to mourn her daughter’s death. 

When she reopened La Popular the bridle shop, on the 25th of March in 1930 a few months later people saw a new mannequin. This mannequin was wearing a dress from the spring/summer collection. This mannequin looked like the shop owner and the locals of Chihuahua drew the conclusion the mannequin was her daughter. Rumors started to spread about this and Espriaza came out publicly and denied these rumors. 

That still didn’t stop the rumors, but I’m guessing she felt better knowing people somewhere out there know the truth. There are many people who still think La Pascualita is a corpse. But I myself don’t think so though considering the other things she could be. 

La Pascualita in her window.

La Pascualita could be a taxidermy doll, though I don’t think so since humans don’t have fur to hide the obvious stitches. A skilled taxidermist could do this yes but even with long sleeves and floor length dress that would hide most of the stitches. Through the seems a little noticeable to the eye still, not completely out of the picture. 

A hard embalming which means a mortician would fully flush out the bodily fluids and leave her dried out fully. A hard embalming could keep a body from decaying for 8-12 years. She wouldn’t be so full of life looking in the face, basically a writhed husk or beef jerky. The environment in Mexico is perfect for a corpse since it is dry and hot a great place to keep a corpse in a mummy like sake. But she wouldn’t last 90s years in perfect condition as she has. Only if she had a team of scientists to keep her looking perfect maybe, just maybe. 

The mannequin could be a wax figure her mother had paid for before her daughter’s death and the model for the mannequin looked like them both. Most mannequins in the 1930s don’t look like her but there are some definitely if they were knowledgeable in casting a mold for the mannequin. Since the mannequins in Madame Tussauds wax museum which is renowned for the wax mannequins. 

Her hands

Maybe in my opinion her mother never moved on from the death of her daughter and had a death cast made of her. She thought maybe no one would notice and dressed her as another mannequin. Esperiza probably would’ve gotten rid of the mannequin after she moved on if this was true or not, a death of a child is the hardest thing for a parent. Since a child is meant to bury their parent from old age not a child being buried from a black widow spider bite, illness, murder, or anything more. A death of a fur baby or in normal people terms a pet is hard enough on some people. I know some people who won’t get a pet for a year or more after a violent death or a sudden one. We have all been there haven’t we wanting that person or pet back, but we couldn’t have them back because they were gone to the afterlife. That is probably how Espraza felt after her little girl died, her baby.  

So why else is she on this list? A paranormal reason. She is said to do many things, mainly freak people out. La Pascualita is said to move when people are shopping for wedding items. If you look away and then look back it is said she would move to a new position. People would stare at her and it is said she smirks at them. Is she haunted? We have no proof, but what if the mannequin looks like La Pascualita because she is haunting the mannequin. How so? Well many spirits that haunt the earth died a violent death or have unfinished business. What if she still wants her wedding day so she haunts the wedding shop for her day to come she is waiting for her husband to take her away to her perfect wedding.  

Another legend of La Pascualita was a French magician who fell in love with her so he would bring her to life every night and they would dance the night away throughout the town. They would do other date things too, but he made sure to get her back to her window before morning came. No one knows where this rumor started, but anytime her window is empty during the night maybe she is dancing out on the town.

What she looks like

A taxi driver that often drives to the bridle shop to take tourists there to see the mannequin. The mannequin in the window has been seen to change positions as he circles the shops with his car.

To even keep it even more of a mystery the staff at La Popular take out of her window to change her dress twice weekly. Though only by trusted staff members mainly the managers and the store owner. So they close the heavy curtains around her and undress her before putting on a new dress, one that stays true to her era and modesty. One worker there Sonia Burciaga said “Everytime I go near Pascualita, my hands breakout in sweat. Her hands are very realistic and she even has varicose veins on her legs. I believe she’s a real person.” 

Many people do believe she has fingerprints or at least very realistic hands I mean just look at them. They are very realistic I think that is what keeps this legend alive this long. Her wrinkles on her face, crows feet by her eyes, smile lines, and more. She has cellulite on her legs and her hair maybe real made from a person who donated then was made into a wig, it’s a wig either way. Her eyes are glass and maybe that is why people are so unnerved by her. No one but the staff have ever seen her legs so we can’t say the ceculit fact is true or not. She also has a blushing skin tone to make her seem more genuine. 

The new owner Mario Gonzolez was asked is La Pascualita real or not? “Many people believe it is but in reality I don’t know.” 

Though would you pray to mannequin, warship one, or pick the dress they were wearing? Well if said yes to any of those your with most of Chihuahua, who adopted La Pascualita as there tourist attraction. Many of the women who come into the store looking  for a wedding dress to wear, want to wear the same dress La Pascualita wore. Since they believe that the dress would give them a good and happy marriage. It does most of the time.  

Before and after

Many people do come and worship her leaving her flowers, candles and praying in front of window. An injured person reportedly prayed to La Pascualita for salvation and received a positive outcome. The gifts are left with the shop workers considering her a Saint. March 25, according to the Mexican spirit almanac it’s the day of the Incarnation. It is The day she was first viewed as her mannequin glory. 

La Pascualita went on a Victorian tour with other odd and victorian objects I have read, from people in Chihuahua. But no source online actually will state this happened. Though when she got back, she had a new face, some people in Chihuahua think she was taken away and replaced because she actually was a real corpse. There are some other people that think she went away and before she returned she was refurbished and got a “new face” she now looks like a instagram model basically. The person or people who did the make-up needed to research on the makeup back then and not now to stay true to her look.  

So is La Pascualita a corpse, wax mannequin, taxidermy, or an effigy doll? Whatever she is, she sure attracts the tourists and makes the money so they won’t debunk the rumors anytime soon. La Pascualita the mannequin we know now as a legend thanks to the internet, she will continue to be that a legend for people of Mexico and all over the world.  

Now to prove that La Pascualita couldn’t be a corpse unless she had a whole team to take care of her corpse. Since we have the tale or should is say crime of a crazy doctor to prove why she couldn’t be a corpse. Carl Tanzler was born in Dresend Germany on February 8th, 1877. He goes by many names Carl Tanzler, Karl Tanzlerl, Carl Count von Cosel, and probably more. He has gone to many places or so he claims, Italy, Australia, India, Cabua, and eventually to the United States. 

Carl Tanzler himself

When he was a child he claims he saw an ancestor, she was his distant aunt I believe, Countess Anna Constantia von Cosel. She would show him what his future true love would look like or that is what he claims. Did he really see her no on can say, but him. Though do we trust his word, I don’t think we should. He tends to embellish the truth. 

While in Australia he was put into internment camp for four years. While there he started to build a sailboat with other prisoners, these prisoners were monks. Was he stopped by the soldiers heck no, he is invincible apparently. Once released he went back home to his mother and stayed there for three years where he married his wife in 1920 Doris Ann Schafer, who outlived her husband to 1977. They had two kids Ayesha Tanzler (1922-1998)  and Clarista Tanzler (1924-1934), who died of diphtheria. Diphtheria if you don’t know because I sure as hell didn’t is a sheet of thick, gray matter that covers the back of the throat making breathing hard, and eventually kills you.  

Carl Tanzler was not yet in the United States, he first emigrated to the US after a brief stay in Havana Cuba. Then he moved into Zephyrhills Florida, where his sister is already at. A year later his family came over. He stayed with them for a year before he abandoned them for a job in Key West. The job was a radolistigstic tech since he lied and said he had 9 universities diplomas.

He found a job at the US Marine Hospital, the only hospital in town that had an x-ray machine, so the Troops and civilians both went there for x-rays. He was working one day when Maria Elena Milagro de Hoyos who was only 21 and was told to be taken there by her doctor’s request, and her mother actually took her there. Elena wasn’t well as many people were in this time she had tuberculosis and would eventually die from this. Since she died in 1930 and the cure was made in 1949. 

 As soon as Tanzler laid his eyes on Elena he knew this woman was true love forget about his wife right? He had a crush on her, no something more an obsession of her. He did what was needed and let her be on her way right, no are you kidding me. He would take care of tuberculosis cases and that included his Elena and he paid attention to her, he wanted to cure her. He wasn’t afraid of tuberculosis victims but more or less pitted them. He would get right in there with the sick and try to heal them, but in the end they all died. 

Tanzler was so entranced by Elena that he asked his superiors to allow him to conduct his own experimental treatments on her. He would try throat sprays one had gold in it even. He would do electric shock therapy on Elena and then did it on her family to show it was harmless. Like why? Same thing done on mental patients shocks to the temples that would hurt, I’m positive it would, heck no man, that won’t cure the lungs. He made his own potions and experiments for her to take, none of them worked. He even had an x-ray machine installed in their home for radiation therapy. That would just cause cancer, but back then they wouldn’t know that. 

Now if this has grossed you out stay tuned. Elena was only 21 at the time a young adult only. Tanzler was 43 a huge freaking age gap, I’m fine with age gap relationships but this one is a no-no. He would buy Elena jewelry, clothing, any type of present he could get to show Ellena his love. He would tell Elena how much he loved her daily yet treat her like a child when treating her. So which one love or not? He manipulated her so she would think she wasn’t good enough for herself and he stated she just followed anything her mother said. Which for a young adult was fine, and for someone who was sick, you normally just want your mom.  

Elena’s never said she loved him back since the age gap was so large and that he and her are both married. She married Luis Mesa at the age of 16 but he abandoned her after she miscarried their child. He ran to Mami and was never seen by Elena again. Now if you ask about Doris, Tanzler’s wife she says in the late 1930s they have been separated for 11 years, but Tanzler says they have been separated for 16 years after Doris shot at him. 

Tanzler addressed this issue and said, marriage is just an earthly matter love transcends it. He didn’t take no for an answer and went after his love no matter what. So Elena and her family couldn’t take it anymore and moved to a new house to get away from this doctor.  He asked them, the neighbors other family members, until Elena got really bad. A family member probably out of the best intentions told Tanzler where they moved too. He claims they moved because they were afraid of science. Which was redioclus since they looked for answers in the first place. 

He came into the house and basically took over Elena’s health again, and probably made her more sick with his cures then better but she did die in her home with her parents. She was originally buried in the ground in Key West, embalmed, but Tanzler didn’t let her rest long no he didn’t. 

Tanzler moved into Elena’s home with her family since they were going to move. They didn’t though since they are a poor family. So Elena’s family mother Celia Milagro Hoyos, father Francisco “Pancho” Hoyos, sister Aurora Milagro, sister Florinda “Nana” Milagro, and brother-in-law Mario Madina might if not all lived there. All of Elena’s family died of tuberculosis besides Mario Medina, and all before the cure of Tuberculosis. At least Francisco and Celia lived their. He eventually showed in a creepy way that he loved Elena and they let him build a mausoleum for Elena. He had her body dug up and saw what state she was in. 

He didn’t leave out any detail she was in, the inside of the coffin was on her face and melting into skin. She had the stink of decay, water decay and more. She wasn’t in the best condition to say, so he spent hours pulling off the inside of the coffin so it wouldn’t damage her anymore. He blamed the smell on the funeral home owner not on decay which it was. He still thought she was beautiful in a decomposition state. 

Eventually he had her put into the masulemon which was made of stone, and she was put into a double wide coffin. The coffin had a plasma mixture in it that was supposedly to reverse the embalming process. In this tomb for his Elena had an organ in it so he could play music to her anytime he wanted, he also had a two way phone put in so he could call her anytime he wanted. Tanzler had the only key to her tomb. Why did the family let him do this for her, we don’t know because her whole family died before they could share their side of the story.  

Tanzler want back to working as normal at the Marine Hospital, but at night he would come to the cemetery and visit his Elena he would spend hours there talking to her until her had to go.This went on for 18 months, before he took it to the next level. Sex right? Nope he took her home. As he went there she came to him as a ghost or in spirit form. She asked him “am I really dead?” he of course said no right well we don’t know, but I think that what his answer would be. Eventually they got to talking and she asked him to get her out of there, and to Tanzler that meant marriage. 

Tanzler claims Elena told him what to do to probably get her out without getting caught. He rented a house adjacent to the cemetery, got a toy wagon, a blanket and was ready. He made sure the cemetery was empty before removing her from the tomb. He took her coffin out of the tomb and put it onto the toy wagon before covering it with a blanket. He pulled his bride through the cemetery which was alive with joy it was a wedding march for him. Before going to the house he was renting. 

He left his new bride there for a few days before coming back for her to take her away to Elena’s airship. Which is a plane he was planning to fix up and fly to an island near Australia. He took her out of the car and put her into the aircraft and lived there with her. While Elena lived in the airship he did a few tests on her and found out she was cured yes it only took death! He found no harmful bacteria on her or in her when he ran the test, but there probably were still some just dormate, since you know she dead.

So he was still working at the hospital and his aircraft had a position in the parking lot. Though when a change of leadership came his airship was no longer welcomed. So he paraded it through town to the beach where he built a lab and home for them. On they way there her family saw the airship and they would of never known their beloved daughter was in it in her coffin with flowers with her obsessed lover. 

He did eventually get fired from that job and he had more time to work on his Elena doll yes! He would buy her dresses, perfume, handkerchiefs, and other lady things. A bachelor buying these things means he got a women right? Apparently so, if you count dead ones. Elena over time would decay of course like any other living thing, we don’t withstand time like trees. Her skin began to fail her so he replaced it with silk soaked in wax and plaster of paris, she had her hair replaced with a wig of her own hair. Her mother was so nice and gave the crazy doctor in 1931 hair from own her daughter, so he got one part now time to get the corpse. So easy right ? 

Later on her eyes withered since there just filled with fluid so of course they would, he replaced with glass eyes. Ooo shiny right and he loves the dead look. Elena organs became mush and he scooped them out, then replaced then with rags. She is becoming more and more of a rag doll than human. Elena’s bones were so brittle and frail that he tied them together with piano wire and hangers. Though one last thing he replaced was her vigina with a paper towel tub, a flesh light for him or just so it would air the femmine things? 

Tanzler would make silicone molds of Elena over the years, so he would have a back up I’m guessing.  Tanzler would do almost anything with his love, dance with her, play the organ for her, and more. Though he wasn’t as careful as he was at the cemetery many people saw him dancing with his Elena, buying femmine things, and not visiting the cemetery nightly like he did for 18 months straight.

Tanzler believed if he shot Elena up into stratosphere the radiation would heal her and bring back to life healed and healthy. That would be hard with a paper towel tub up her vigina. Though he respected her modesty and kept up the modesty curtain for married couples, he also used a lot of perfume and order eater to take away the decay smell. 

After seven years rumors were at an all time high about the doctor and his “life size doll.” Elena’s sister Nana insisted to see Elena and Tanzler refused. Nana decided to just visit Tanzler instead and found Tanzler with her dead sister in his lab-home. She stood there in shock for a few minutes before she recovered and then asked for Tanzler to put her back, of course Tanzler said no. Nana gave up, but four days later police came into his lab and arrested Tanzler. Elena was tanken to a funeral home and put on display for the world to see for only a dollar. Many people came to see her around 6,800 so close to 7,000 people it was a cash endeavor in the end. 

He was arrested for “wantonly and maliciously destroying a grave and removing a body without authorization.” He didn’t confess to necorphila so the court couldn’t prosecute him on that. Though the authorities thought he did, so it was a go around whether he did or didn’t. Though they held Tanzler in jail for six months to try and procuste him for his horrendous crimes, but the court system failed in the end.

Why you might ask, the statute of limitations were expired since the crimes were over seven years old. Should we have a statue of limitations for such crimes, we dont have one for murder, so why for other crimes? What do you think? What crime should and shouldn’t have a statute of limitations?

Carl Tanzler was given a mental evaluation while in jail on trial. He was declared sane for the trial, but before then. He was found border-line, so Tanzler wasn’t sane as we think. He definitely was not in the right mind when he had Elena or was a doctor. If he was alive today we definitely treat him differently.

His wife heard the news and sent a letter about him and mental status from when she last saw him and from the time she knew him. When they separated and so forth, it was a tell all about Tanzler thanks to his wife. 

He was released and Elena was buried finally and put to rest for once and for all, hopefully. She was put into an unmarked grave, picked out by the chief of police and the funeral home director. Some sources say that she was buried in many graves so if she was found again she would never be found in one piece. 

This could be the effigy

When he was in prison he was offered to have the most famous lawyer, in Key West to cover his case for free. Most people romanticizes it women would bring him food daily and say they would want to be Elena. This is a worse love story than Twilight in my opinion. A corpse of course can’t give consent so this is very illegal. Why romanticize something like this, it is an act of crime not an act of love. Love is keeping a person buried not making them into a rag doll.

After this Elena was at rest, but Tanzler would have people come to his lab for a tour, only for 25¢ a person. He did eventually move back to Zephyrhills and lived with his sister and her husband. 

Tanzler when he left that night the mosulem blew up, Tanzler said it was never him. No one knows who actually blew up Elena’s original tomb, was it her family or some unknown person? Whoever they are, they are lost in history just as the location to Elena’s real grave.

He went on with his day to day life like normal and eventually he decided he wanted to live on his own again. So he moved out, not back in with his wife, though she still supported him. He did die at age 77 in 1952. He got his American citizenship in 1950.  It is said he was found laying on the floor behind his organ, with an Elena effigy doll on the bookshelf. She was just sitting there looking down at him, other reports say he died and the effigy doll was in his arms, or there was no effigy doll, or instead the effigy doll was traded out with Elena’s corpse. He may have had someone trade them out and he died happily with his obsession or lover whatever you think in his arms. He could have also had his Elena’s effigy doll buried instead of the real Elena. I hope it was the real Elena buried.

He maybe even buried himself with the Elena effigery doll in his grave. He died with her and is still with her. He is still probably going after his obsession till today, in the afterlife. Tanzler was a strange man and we know little about him besides the books he wrote himself. 

Vladimir Lenin’s body is on display in the Red Square, he went on display in 1924 after his death. Lenin has his own staff of scientists responsible to take care of him, paid by the government. They get paid pretty good too. He has had black spots, mold, and other issues all cleared up with bleach, or glycerol and potassium acetate bath. He goes in for 30 days to help the dead skin retain moisture, and to keep the body from falling apart. All the internal organs have been removed leaving only the skin in some areas, muscles, and skeleton. He has had a few body replacement parts too like his hands I know of for sure. 

There is plenty more to talk about for Lenin but I wanted to keep that part short and sweet. Since most people know about him. Hopefully you learned something new here today and will come back for more next time. 

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The Kindly Killer or The Mirror of Jeffery Dahmer

This case isn’t suitable for kids, and if you dislike murder, necroplia, homosexuals, incest, and other topics please leave now. I wish no disrespect on the victims and their families, I just found this interesting and hope you guys do too. Some of my sources may be wrong and if you wish to correct me please do, I would love some criticism. Not everything maybe correct things change over time since everything didn’t get as well documented.

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Dennis Andrew Nilsen was born on November 23, 1945 in Fraserburgh Scotland a small fishing town. To Bettty Duthie Whyte and Olav Mangus Moksheim who adopted the surname Nilsen. Moksheim was a Norgein soldier that  came to Scotland in the 1940’s and married Betty in 1942 after a brief courtship. They moved into Betty’s parents house together even though her parents disapproved of the couple being together. They were together for seven years and had three kids. Olav Jr., Dennis, and Sylvia. Moksheim worked for the Free the Norgian Soldiers Movement, which was pro Nazis. He would come home rarely and basically have intercourse with Betty then leave to work or drink again. So in 1948 Betty decided to divorce Moksheim and said she “rushed into marriage without thinking” her parents were supportive of this decision. Nilsen’s was either 3 or 4 at the time of the divorce. 

Fraserburgh a town in Aberdeenshire a tiny isolated island that had a small population of 100,000. Which means the people in the town would date and marry people they are related to. This would lead to mental illness at a higher outcome because of incest. It wasn’t a brother and sister, but more of cousin and cousin that married each other till the soldiers showed up and finally added to the gene pool and dating pool on the island. During the trial that was used as evidence to help prove Dennis wasn’t fully guilty because of insanity that ran in his family.  

Betty and her three kids are still living with her parents Andrew Whyte and Lily Whyte, till later on when she could afford a flat. Nilsen would go on long walks with his grandfather along the shore sometimes alone or with his siblings. Nilsen would wait hours at the shoreline for his grandfather to return from fishing trips. Some sources say that on walks Andrew asked Nilsen to pull out his penis and wanted to watch him pee. Nilsen did admit he was molested by an older boy, but didn’t say whom he was. He may or may not have done this I don’t know, though it does indicate it. Whyte was a strict man, sullen, proud, disapproved of such things as alcohol, the radio, and working on the Sabbath (working on Sundays.) Whyte seemed to find real contemptment and joy, in his relationship with Nilsen, he would tell stories of the sea to Nilsen which he listened to for hours on end. When Nilsen was six his grandfather went out for a fishing trip and didn’t return alive. On October 31, 1951 his grandfather was 62 when he died as a hero, a father figure, and the one person who he connected to the most died of a heart attack at sea. He came home from school a few days after Whyte died since he had to be brought back in and saw his mother crying and was asked if he wanted to see his grandfather. Nilsen said yes and walked into the kitchen only to find a wooden box on the kitchen table. He looks into the box and sees his grandfather asleep as he was told, he thought Whyte would wake up any moment and hug him and take him on walks with him on his shoulders once more, but he didn’t. He was told his grandfather went to a better place and asked why Whyte didn’t take him with. After a few weeks to months later he realized that his grandfather wasn’t coming back and was dead. Nilsen claims this is his most vivid childhood memory and maybe when his thoughts of love and death collided. 

After the death of his grandfather, he was more distant and took walks by himself on the same path he and grandfather did. The only person he didn’t really push away was Sylvia his little sister. He was more lonely, didn’t do anything with family, anything he would do before was a no go. Once he was happy as a child then he wasn’t, never until the military. He resented his older brother for basically being everything he wasn’t and pushed Olav Jr. away more than before. Never Sylvia though was it because she was younger, a girl, or some other reason that only he knows.  Though his weird childhood wasn’t over and if you like to tick off serial killer bingo there are many more cards to play. 

Dennis Nilsen

He took a solo trip down to the beach at Inverallochy either in 1954 or 1955 and he was submerged under the water and almost taken out to sea. He started to panic and failing his limbs and gasping for a breath that wasn’t there when he swears he could see his grandfather was coming to pulling him out of the water. It wasn’t his grandfather that saved him though. Another young kid or teenager saved him and dragged him out of the water where he awoke on land and had a sticky white substance on his stomach. Again some sources say this kid saved Nilsen and then masturbated over the unconscious body of Nilsen. Is this what triggered his love of corpses, or was his grandfather’s death the cause, or was his strict parents the cause, or another cause overall we don’t know, or was no trigger needed and he was born this way. Was this white sticky substance on his stomach seaman or was it something else?

A short time after this Betty found a flat and the small family moved into it, in 1955. Soon after she married Andrew Scott and had four more children together. Nilsen resented Scott because he was the disciplinary of the household, but grew to tolerate him. Olav Jr. and Sylvia were treated better in his eyes and therefore it was unfair and I agree, but he wasn’t the easiest kid to have no kid is easy to have. One thing his parents who could be strict liked to say was “impurities of the flesh.” Which could be a cause of some of tendencies, but no one really knows not even Nilsen, or does he? Did they say this all along because they knew he was gay? Anyways back to childhood the happy couple hopefully, had seven kids Nilsen never had a bedroom to himself thanks to large family in our stranders today. He fondled his younger sister Sylvia and his older brother Olav Jr. He may have fondled them more than once some sources say once some say more. This all started because of impure thoughts he had been having of his male classmates. He was changing thanks to purburty right and he saw that he was attratived to males at school and he of course kept this to himself it wasn’t a time to be gay. So he explored this at home, but most of the boys he liked were more femine and looked like his younger sister Sylvia so he thought maybe he was bisexual. Of course he tried to foundle Sylvia after this thought and he wasn’t, but he wanted to see for sure if he was truely gay. Which lead to the fondling of Olav Jr. whom woke up as he was being fondled. He should never of done that to explore his sexualitly but before this he had never seen a naked body besides when younger and now more mature he saw their bodies in a different light.  

After that night Olav Jr. went around calling his brother a hen and other such slurs back then he was thinking his brother was gay and bullied Nilsen for it. When Nilsen was at school he never acted on feelings and just loved or admired from afar. He finished school early at the age of 15 and worked at a cannery for a few weeks before he found out what to do next in life. His next step was signing up for the military. When  he took the test as he entered the military he got the highest score for culinary core. He told his mother before he left of course and trained for three years before being in the military for nine more years. He was in the military all together for eleven years and three months. 

He for once was happy mainly because of the men in uniform, yummy right? While in the military he became an alcoholic and would drink as he cooked, you always need wine as you cook right? This was to relax and be a normal human he had no social skills and alcohol loosened him up, but he had to make sure not to drink too much or too little. While these cooks did, but anyway these practices came in handy later on. Nilsen would never shower with anyone else and would find some solo time to masturbate and eventually his sick fantasies came out as he was in the military. He enjoyed this time because of the hard work, discipline, and the comradeship. He revealed in the feeling of no longer being an outsider, though he still was attracted to a few of his fellow comrades. 

In these eleven years many things happened to him and others. He got a private room finally but not for all the eleven years. He would position himself in front of the mirror so he could see the penis in the mirror and not his head while standing or lying. From this he basically disassociated with the body in the mirror and got turned on by this and once that stopped working for him he started getting talc powder, fake blood and other make-up to make himself look dead. His fantasies went from unconscious bodies to dead bodies. So while traveling with the military he would see dead bodies.

Nilsen while in the military

 He would walk the battlegrounds sometimes to find new inspiration for his fantasies. He didn’t need to walk the battle grounds for once though, he got inspiration from the picture The Raft of the Medusa. A depiction of crash and he liked the left lower corner showing an older man holding a  dead young boy in his arms and Nilsen remembered this in his brain for later. This formed into different fantasies. He first thought of the young boy with the old man and from there this twisted memory turned to old man finding Nilsen and dragging him back to his home and this old man got turned on by Nilsen being dead. As the old man climax so did the corpse only the penis came back to life spurting cum onto the stomach as while as the old man’s. The old man buried Nilsen and then dug him up and and masturbated again to the corpse of Nilsen. This was only one of Nilsen’s sick fantasies he masturbated to in the mirror as a cook for the military. 

The Raft of Medusa

So you would think that be it that happened in the military no, not all. He would act way drunker than he was to maybe get touched, or molested. He just wanted to be touched so he acted as he acted as passive as he could since he wasn’t drunk just tipsy. One time Nilsen got into an Arab taxi the driver knocked him out and Nilsen had a near death experience. Nilsen got into the taxi then was knocked out and placed into the trunk where he woke up and waited for the car to stop and when the trunk opened he grabbed the jack and hit the Arab in the head with it. Who knows if this is fully true, since only Nilsen witnesses it, and he does love to manipulative things and stories.     

He did try sex with a woman, he paid for a prostitute and it was overrated and just ot much vagina and not enough penis for his liking or was it because she was still alive? She was in Berlin and he bragged that he shagged a women finally to his colleges. He also had intercourse with a young Arab boy, many times I don’t know if he paid for it, or if it was consensual, and all that but he did shag that fella.

Well traveling with the military he gained a new hobby and that was photography and filming. When NIlsen was finishing his service he made a friend and fell in love with him, but this friend was straight. Brian Masters wrote many biographies on serial killers and one is on Dennis Nilsen, he calls this friend “Terry Finch.” Finch was only 18 and straight, as there friendship grew Finch pretended to be dead for Nilsen as he filmed him for minutes on end. The parting put a major pain on Nilsen and he didn’t admit to Finch he loved him and just burned the films they made together, which was hours on end and surprised there colleges they were with. He gave Finch the projector and left him never seeing him again still in love and became a bitter man. During the military he had cooked for the Queen’s guard, West Germany, Ayden, The Gulf, Trucial Oman Scouts an Arab regiment, Cyprus, Sutherland Highlander, Bala, Northern Ireland, and maybe other places. He started off as a private and left as a Corporal. 

After he left the military he came home and stayed with his family for a few months while home his mother Betty fretted over him not having a women next to his side yet. Though I believe it was on Christmas a few couples including his brother Olav Jr. and his wife were watching a documentary about homosexuals. After they watched it Olav Jr. told Betty that Dennis was gay and they had big fight it lead to where Olav Jr. and Nilsen never talked again. Betty only wrote a few letters to him and Nilsen did reply, basically after that day he was disowned by his family. 

Eventually he moved out and headed to London where he became a police officer for the Metropolitan Police, for an underwhelming period. He started training in 1972 and joined the force in 1973, his number was Q287. When training one of his tasks was to go down to the morgue and see the bodies. When down there he saw a young girl that died and older man the Pathologist.  This girl to him looked like a young boy and that provided to his fastanties. He only made a few arrests while working on force none required any force, but nothing more than that, and some police officers say he figerianted the morgure more than normal officers. Some sorcerers think this is why he resigned so soon, even saying he was found over a corpse masturbating and was forced to resign after that. This is where he learned abouth the gay pubs, but he didn’t find what he was looking for while on the force, the same bond he found in the military. What put him over the edge to resign was he on patrol one night and found a couple having intercourse in their car, but they were homosexuals and that wasn’t allowed back then and he couldn’t bring himself to arrest them. Two parts of him collided so he within the same year resigned from the police force. 

Nilsen as a police officer or as Brits call them Bobbies.

After that he worked for a security team from December 1973 to May 1974. This job didn’t last long, probably for the same reason because he wasn’t built for it sure he was tall, but he wasn’t built to hurt people unless drunk. So after that he became unemployed and lived off the money he had until he had to sell his service meld from the military which wasn’t much money. The service medal was only £8. It was a little bit after that he gave in and went to sign up for unemployment, but that changed from signing up for unemployment to getting a job as a civil servant. This job as a civil servant he would have until he would be arrested in 1978. His job was to assign jobs to the untalented and others who couldn’t find one.  

The pubs he found out about were frecented by gay men and other LGBT+ comminty members. Though from the outside it looked like any other pub to non locals. These pubs where The King William IX, Colerne Cabar (which was later exploited by another serial killer),  Colin Ireland, The Golden Lion, The Black Cap, The Salishary, and Cricklewood Arms. He would frequent each of these pubs and do many pub crawls getting drunker as the years past on. 

Nilsen was just living life as a civil servant before anything really happened. One day at work he met David Painter, but later saw him on the street. Painter came home with Nilsen after seeing on the street, Painter fell asleep on the bed once comfortable with Nilsen. He awoke to the sight of Nilsen over top of him taking photos of him asleep. Painter fought so much he had to be taken to the hospital. Nilsen was questioned and released no charges were pressed. [red flag]

 One day he felt lonely and went down to a local pub in Soho and found a youth being made fun of by two other men, he was weaker and had some lipstick on. So Nilsen mustered his biggest voice he could and walked over to them and got in the middle of the fight basically recusing the boy. This boy was his first boyfriend and last long term alive one. They entered the pub together and sat in a cozy booth and talked for hours exchanging names and why they were there. The youth was David Gallichan a 20 year old homeless youth, he was gay, and staying in a local hostel. So they left the bar together and went to the hostel and spent the night there both of them and decide to get a flat together within a few short hours. So with the inheritance from his father’s death £1,000 or $1,284.84 in today’s money it is £4,152.15 and $5,325.96. Together they found  a place in Cricklewood at 195 Melrose Avenue they bargained with the landlord for private access to the garden and to have the place furinced, which it was but barely. 

Bleep

So Nilsen and Gallichen now living together and Gallichen never went out to find work, so he assumed the “wife” position job of the flat. He would take care of the flat and cook for Nilsen who went out and worked for them. Nilsen gave Gallihen an affectionate nickname “Twinkle” and he did say he did find Gallichaen sexually attractive. They had a good relationship for about a year and may have had intercourse in that first year they were together. During that first year they got Bleep a mutt from a shelter, and a stray cat named Dee-Dee. Because unlike most serial killers Nilsen didn’t like hurting animals nor did he hurt them as a child, besides one cat at age nine. He hung the cat by the throat with barbed wire and he was afterwards repulsed by the sight.

So the four of them together in the ground floor flat and eventually Nilsen started to be abusive to Gallichen verbally. He yelled at him for the slightest wrong thing, mostly when drunk and when making home movies. Because he was the director, the star, everything, and if Gallichen did one wrong thing he would know. As they drifted apart they brought home different men to their shared flat and slept in separate beds and one time to both of their surprises Nilsen brought home a women. Everything just bubbled to breaking point and Nilsen yelled at Gallichen and told him to leave and Gallichen did, because there two different personalities weren’t working together. Though after he told Gallichen to leave he was afraid of the world and that he would end up alone. “Loneliness is a long unbearable pain,” he wrote. The two year relationship was over as soon as it started in a day. Nilsen was very impulsive and rarely thought things through till it was too late. Gallichan being out of his life, a dead body in his flat, or the toilets not working he never thought and just did.  After his love left him he threw himself into his work, alcohol, became increasingly more political, and he watched a lot of television. He became depressed like the rest of us, go team!

Between the time of now and the murders he tried to date another three more men but these three men didn’t stick around. He was either to strict or the man he tried dating didn’t fit within his ideals so after the fourth rejection he decided he wasn’t meant for love and companionship. The killings of 12-15 men and young boys started eighteen months after Gallichen left. He would also take long walks with Bleep through graveyards to indulge in his fantasies and his hero Karl Marx. During these times he tried to keep the depressing thoughts away with his fantasies again he sank into their embrace they were comforting like a home. But eventually they weren’t enough, he needed more he needed love, he needed a companion, a lover, someone who won’t leave him like Gallichen, Whyte, his father, and many others that have before.  He needed someone to control and someone who give into him to fully and never say no to him, he wanted to feel powerful. He achieved that in the sickest way possible if you ask most of humanity. 

So on December 30, 1978 he went out to a gay pub looking for another one stand like he has been doing for the past eighteen months since his beloved Gallichen has left. Though this would be the night that changed everything, he spotted a youth at the pub and believed he was 16 or 17 and he invited the kid home. The kid accepted, since the kid wanted beer and he wasn’t getting any at the pub he looked to young.  They went back to 195 Melrose Avenue together there they drank and talked and eventually the youth fell asleep and so did Nilsen. Though Nilsen eventually awoke before the youth in the morning. As Nilsen was looking over kid he thought he was staying with Nilsen for New Years Eve whether he wanted to or not, since he spent Christmas alone. Nilsen stoke his face as he stared at how peaceful he looked before. Nilsen decided to kill him then and there. He grabbed a tie and put it around the youth’s neck and strangled him. The youth did wake up and try to fight off Nilsen and they fell to the floor as they fought, but was unsuccessful and he spilled into unconscious. Nilsen noticed that and went to the kitchen to get a bowl of water and submerged his head into the water the youth didn’t struggle this time. Nilsen just waited till the bubbles stopped and then pulled his head out of the water. The youth was never identified until January 12, 2006  and he wasn’t 16 or 17 he was only 14 and his name was Stephen Dean Holmes, he was born on March 22, 1964. He was at the pub after a pop concert on the way home.

He used water to kill the person to maybe bring his grandfather closer to each death and maybe incorporate that with each death, he can’t simulate a heart attack but he can use water what his grandfather loved most to kill. Nilsen did love the water himself, but he loved his grandfather more. I wouldn’t be surprised if he used water because of grandfather.  His grandfather his first corpse love was what sparked his love for the dead and made him kill, then used what they both loved the most to kill his victims. 

195 Mulerose Avenue Cricklewood

After Holmes was dead he got and erection from the site of the corpse the perfect person so complaint and willing to obey as he says. He didn’t touch it that time instead took Holmes to bathe him in the bathtub and placed the corpse in and washed it up and shaved it, then put on makeup to cover up the corpses blemishes, sometimes he’d put talc powder on their bodies. Before he would dress it up in a new pair of underwear. Nilsen would then take Holmes back to his bed and try to have intercourse, but his penis wouldn’t stay up. After a few tries he put the body on the ground and covered it with a curtain and went to bed. 

Later on he would try and place the body under the floorboards but it didn’t work because rigor mortis set in so he propped Holmes up against the wall for the time being. Holmes was still standing later on so Nilsen started to massage and work on getting Holmes under the floorboards and proceed as if life was normal, but knew this was beginning to a different kind flatmate. He would take out the corpse of Holmes a week later and found it was dirty so he was washed off. He then bathed in the bath water after him. Once Holmes’ corpse was cleaned Nilsen got an erection and started to masturbate right there in the kitchen as he putting the body away. He didn’t place Holmes away gently instead pushed him in by the ankles back under the floorboards, Holmes’ grave. He did eventually get rid of the body seven and a half months later in August.

Nilsen never did say which corpse he used as just for a companion or as more. He did use them as a sex doll if you wish say that, but he admittedly said he never penetrated them, just masturbation, thigh fucking if you wish not to get to complicated, though he did admit he hotdogged it once. By that he means he puts penis in between one of his chosen companion corpses butt crack and had intercourse with the butt cheeks not the asshole. He said penetration was to far and would ruin the perfectness that his companions had, plus he couldn’t keep his dick up for that, erectile dysfunction with a corpse how sad Nilsen, hopefully you can keep it up with an alive person. 

This process was longer than anyone knew until he admitted he take the body or bodies out from the floorboards and chop them up on the stone floor in the kitchen since it was close to a sink for vomiting he would get sick as he dissected his lovers and dead companions. Nilsen would remove the organs and put them in a separate bags, cut the body into parts to burn easier then placed it back under the floorboards or in the shed. Sometimes he would boil body parts on the stove to remove flesh in a cooking pot he bought the day he murder Holmes. Sometimes this process took ages and he would do it in stages till he was ready for the next step. After he killed then dissected his victims he would build a bonfire in the garden to burn the larger pieces of the bodies and put the organs in between the wall and the fence for the foxes, vultures and other animals to come pick at eat till it was gone. So he built up a bonfire in the garden which he had private access to and then add a tire onto it to hide the smell of burning flesh and the bonfire would burn all day. Normally it would get rid of the bones to if not he would rake through them and crush them with his rake. 

His flat now empty of a corpse and hopefully the flies diminishing over time the killing stopped he promises to himself because he limited his alcohol intake and he tried to commit sucied but couldn’t. Tried to bring himself to do it, but when Bleep walked into the room he couldn’t because of her. So he looked into the mirror and spat on his reflection in disgust. He couldn’t kill himself because of Bleep that day, but if he did imagine how many lives would be saved? Though we can’t say anything about that since he didn’t die and killed twelve to fifteen men and young boys. Imagine what Bleep’s life would’ve been through Nilsen was a strong man for sticking it out, he should’ve known killing for company wasn’t normal though. 

Bodies were kept everywhere he forgot where he put some.

Next he would try and kill a student from Hong Kong in October, who managed to escape on this fortunate night. Andrew Ho met Nilsen on the West End and Nilsen asked Ho if he wished to be shown around the sights Ho declined. Though Nilsen didn’t stop there, he asked if Ho wanted to come back to his and try some bondage play or just a drink. Ho for some reason agreed but I think for some for money. So back at Nilsen’s place at Cricklewood they drank together to get into the mood before Nilsen started to “play.” Nilsen started by grabbing a tie and putting it around Ho’s neck, as he did telling Ho he was playing a dangerous game, then tighten it. Ho told him stop, Nilsen didn’t want to he had intent that night to kill Ho. He finally stopped the strangulation of Ho, who went to the police and told them what went on there, but he didn’t press charges. The police did ask Nilsen questions though he was released without charge. [red flag]

So him promising not to kill again was broken on that night or was it, since Ho wasn’t dead. That didn’t last though Kennth Ockendon was the next victim that died in his Cricklewood flat and was one of the few reported missing. He was a Canadian student that was in London to visit family and due home the next day. On December 3, 1979 Ockendon was at pub and Nilsen noticed he wasn’t a local and asked him if he wished to be shown around. Ockendon agreed to be shown around and eventually went back to Nilsen’s place. They listened to music together and Nilsen said music influenced most of his killings. He then asked Ockonden to listen something and handed Ockonden the headphones. He stands behind Ockonden and then grabs the headphone cord and uses it to strangle Ockonden. This song was from London Symphony Rock Classic album. 

Nilsen’s favorite pair of headphones to listen to music and to kill with.

Afterward he finished listening to the music and smoked a cigarette and drank some rum and coke his favorite. Ockonden had his clothes removed and stuffed under the kitchen cupboard, where he doubled over and stiffen up thanks to rigor mortis. Nilsen would take him out a day later once he a polaroid camera with him, unstiffened and got him cleaned before he used the camera. Once cleaned Nilsen would put Ockonden into various positions and took many photos of Ockonden in these suggestive positions. Afterwards he took Ockonden to bed and put Ockonden on top of him spread eagle, and spoke to him as if he were alive. Once done talking Nilsen crossed Ockonden legs and had intercourse between his thighs. Nilsen eventually put Ockonden under the floorboards only removing the corpse a few times to watch tv. Ockonden used a map to get around the city and apperenty Nilsen didn’t throw everything away of his companions since that very map was found in Nilsen’s flat and in it had a partial finger fingerprint of Ockonden’s linking them together. 

Nilsen would destroy all the music him and Ockonden listened too. Any time the music came on he would get into a weird mood. One time a song he and Ockonden listened to came on at the Christmas party he helped plan. Nilsen dropped his drink and left the party. He eventually went home and tried to sleep, but couldn’t and pulled up the floorboards and yelled “If you want to listen than listen.”  

Five months went by before he had the urge to kill again. On May 13, 1980 Martyn Duffey who was 16 was his next victim or was it a new dead companion? Duffey was homeless and accepted the invitation to spend the night, since he hasn’t slept in a few days. At Cricklewood they had two beers and decided to hit the hay. Nilsen woke up before Duffey and of coursed strangled him then drowned him in the kitchen sink. After Duffey was killed he took the corpse to the bathroom to be cleaned. As Nilsen cleaned Duffey he told him how beautiful he was. After the bath Nilsen took him to the bed and laid him down, and started to kiss him all over. Eventually he sat on Duffey’s stomach and started to masturbate. Nilsen placed his newest companion in the cupboard for two weeks, then he was retried to the floorboards. Duffey was more than a corpse to him and told him he was the most beautiful person he had ever seen. Duffey was the person that lasted the longest in Nilsen’s fantasies, maybe because he was the most beautiful person to Nilsen overall. 

Billy Sutherland he was 27 and a prostitute. Sutherland wasn’t gay, he did have a girlfriend and a daughter in Scotland. He went to London to find work and became a prostitute, normally going after richer older men. He went on a pub crawl with Nilsen and wouldn’t leave him alone, Nilsen only let him come home with him because Sutherland said he had no place to go. So Nilsen let him come home with him. Nilsen barely recalls killing Sutherland. Billy Sutherland was one of the few who was reported missing, but since forty other Billy Sutherland went missing in London not a surprise another one went missing.

The next few victims Nilsen doesn’t remember that much about them, to our dismay. One day hopefully we will get closure for them and their families. His fifth victim was another prostitute, he was never identified all we know is that he was from the Philippines or Thailand. Nilsen’s sixth victim was an Irish laborer he met in the pub. Number seven was a “starving hippy type”  Nilsen found him sleeping in a doorway in Charing Cross. His eighth victim he sadly can recall nothing about. Victims nine and ten were Scottish men he picked up in pubs. 

His other weapons the tie, knives, and his pot to boil off skin. All these are kept at The Black museum in Britain.

“The most exciting part was when I lifted a body and carried it, it was an expression of my power to have control the dangling elements of limp limbs was an expression of passivity the more passive the more powerful I was.” 

So to get rid of some of these flies by now he would get rid of the bodies, though he can’t  can’t get them all. Everybody between Ockonden and “the starving hippy type” were disposed of. So he put his dog Bleep and his cat Dee-Dee in the garden as he started cutting. In his underwear on the stone floor once again he was cutting the bodies apart. Some parts were put into his lovely plastic bags, others into carpets, and some into suitcases. Once again after everyone was chopped up and organs put between the fence and wall, the fire was started for the day. This time though three kids watched Nilsen told them to stay back because toxic smoke. Nilsen thought it right that the kids were dancing around the fire a mass burning of his companions. No one questions about the day long fire they probably were grateful when he moved out. 

Victim eleven has no name and hasn’t been identified yet. Though this victim was as the sources say a skinhead, Nilsen picked him up at Piccadilly Circus. What makes this person stand out he had a tattoo around his neck saying “cut here.” He boasted to Nilsen how tough he was. Though once he was intoxicated he was proven to be no match for  Nilsen. Nilsen once again killed him and then hung his toros in his bedroom for 24 hours before he was buried underneath the floorboards.

At some point between murder six and murder eleven on November 11, 1980 Douglas Stewart was the one that got away. He was brought back to Nilsen’s flat and got him drunk a recurring theme huh? Apparently a lot of people go to strangers flats to get drunk, food, and intercourse. So Nilsen tied him up and was getting ready to kill him when Stewart woke up. Finding himself tied to a chair, being throttled. Stewart put up such a good fight that he managed to escape the wrath of Nilsen. Stewart once safe called the police though once again the police dismissed it as a tiff between gay lovers having a domestic quarrel. [red flag]

Malcolm Barlow was 24 years old an epelthic, orphan, and a pathological logical lair. Nilsen took him home and called an ambulance for him, he was being a good person for once right on. Though the next day Barlow came back to thank his savior, Nilsen cooked for him and offered alcohol to the man. Barlow fell asleep after a bit and Nilsen found Barlow’s presence a nuisance so he killed Barlow. He stuffed Barlow under the kitchen sink in a cupboard. Now with five bodies around him in his flat the flies and smell are overwhelming. He placed deodorant under the floorboards. He would also spray air freshener twice a day to try and get rid of the flies. One of the tenants asked him about the smell and cheeky old Nilsen said it was decay of the building. 

He would use these bodies for sexual purposes for as long as a week. Nilsen found having a control over the men thrilled him and the mystery of the dead body not responding fascinated him. Nilsen thought he appreciated them more than they were ever appericated before in life.  Around this time his flat was vandalized and the cops who came to investigate didn’t know they were on top of bodies. [red flag]

Some sources say these vandals were sent by his landlord who wanted him out and thought he was weird. So the landlord helped him find a place to live well a few places, gave him badisposiosition and another £1,000 on top of that. Though he still had bodies in his flat so he had to get rid of them, once again. He called off of work and cut up the bodies and burned the bodies once again. He did this all within a few days before moving to his new flat, which was an attic flat. 

What his garden looked like when police came.

After moving he didn’t kill for a while till Paul Nobbs was brought home to 23 Cranley Gardens. Nobbs was probably lured in by drinks and maybe intercourse and from the alcohol he fell asleep on Nilsen’s bed. When he woke in the morning he woke up with little memory of the night before. He had bruising around the neck, bloodshot eyes, and other signs of severe stangletion. Nilsen looked him over as Nobbs walks into the kitchen and said “gosh you look terrible.” Nobbs got dressed quickly and went to class refusing Nilsen breakfast offer, but he was having trouble focusing in class. So his tutor took him to a University doctor, the doctor looked over Nobbs and give him meds for his bloodshot eyes. He suggested Nobbs go to the police, but didn’t he was scared to be outed for being a homosexual. 

Carl Stotter

Finally John Howlett was killed in his new flat, yay. He was an ex-guardsman that he picked up and took home in December 1981. Howlett is said to be a friend, they could’ve worked together when Nilsen was a guard. Nilsen took a disliking to Howlet since he fell asleep in his bed. Howlet was one of the very few who fought back, that didn’t discourage him though since he knew Howlett must die. There was a struggle all over the flat and even at one point Howlet tried to strangle Nilsen back. Howlet was eventually drowned his head held underwater for five minutes or more. Howlet was the first body dismembered in his flat. He flushed the heart and lungs down the toilet, probably boiled them first. He did throw away the larger bones anything he didn’t get rid of he kept. Heads, hands, ribs, and feet were boiled to get rid of flesh. Torsos was kept in a plastic bag in his wardrobe. Some of the bigger parts like spinal column and legs might of been chucked into his neighbor’s yard or to trash which was a common practice. No one reported the weird shaped bags with bones in it, these bags just disappeared within a few days. 

Carl Stotter who was Drag Queen met Nilsen at one of his favorite pubs he brought home Stotter and was pre warned about the sleeping bag and it might strangle him, neither man had an interest in, intercourse that night. Stotter because he had just gotten out of an abusive relationship and Nilsen respected that. Once asleep Nilsen took his offer of a sleeping Stotter, a new companion if he killed. “I fell asleep and I woke up and he was strangling me. I passed out after a short time of thinking I actually I thought that I’d caught up in the sleeping bag, but he warned me about it. Anyway, I passed out from that and I remember vaguely hearing water running and being carried and I felt very cold and I realized I was in the bath and he was trying to drown me.” He also says that remembers hearing Nilsen telling him to stay still as he was strangled. You think this is the end for Stotter no, Bleep saw something Nilsen didn’t and licked Stotter’s face. Nilsen started to do CRP on Stotter, rubbed his limbs to get the currulation back, covered him with layers of blankets to keep him warm, and spoon fed him. After Stotter was ok enough to stand Nilsen told him a perfectly planned out lie. Stotter was strangled by the sleeping bag and Nilsen put him the tub because he went into shock, then nursed him back to health. He walked Stotter to the train station and gave him money for a train ticket and told him he wished to see him again, they never met again till the courtroom.

Graham Allen was another homeless man who met Nilsen in Shaftesbury Avenue. Nilsen got Allen to Cranley Gardens on the promise of food. Nilsen cooked an omelet for him and he blacked out as he killed Allen. Since Allen died and he couldn’t remember killing him even though Allen had red marks on his neck and omelet sticking out of his mouth. Nilsen deduced that the omelet didn’t leave the red marks, nor did Allen choke on the omelet , so the red marks must of been from him. Once Nilsen used Allen for his purposes Allen was left in the bath for three days since Nilsen didn’t know how to dismember him, he was dismembered the same way as the Howlet. 

Stephen Sinclair was a drug addict who was mentally disabbled that loitered around Leicester Square, he was killed January 23, 1983. They met on Oxford Street and SInclair was asking for money to pay for a cheap hostel. Nilsen suggested he come home with him and Sinclair accepted. Sinclair shot up heroin and drank alcohol till he was in a stupor as Nilsen listen to music. Nilsen grabbed a string and said “Stephen here we go again” it was to short so he tied the string to a tie. As Sinclair was strangled Nilsen told him “Nothing can hurt you now.” Once Sinclair was dead Nilsen removed bandages on his arms and discovered recent self harm marks, and an attempt at sucide with a razor. Before he was disposed of Sinclair was cleaned and placed in bed. Nilsen put two mirrors around the bed, before he removed his own clothes and got into bed.  As they lay in bed together he felt oneness and and thought this surely was the meaning of life and death. He once again talks to the victim as if they were still alive and eventually Bleep jumps on the bed and sniffs Sinclair. Nilsen then turns Sinclair’s head and kisses Sinclair. Nilsen later wrote this “this was something I had to do, I thought of all potential all that beauty and all that pain that is in his life it will soon be over.” 

Once this dream date or is this nightmare fuel is over Nilsen flushes and disposed of the body the same way as he did with Howlett and Allen. This caused a problem though and blocked the drains and sewers for all the six tenants in Cranley Gardens. So Nilsen stopped flushing his companions, to unblock the drains, while at least not make it worse. He was a strange man and made a petition to get the drains unblocked, having fellow tenants sign it, before giving the papers to the landlord. Was this a white flag, an intentional move, or no? A drain cleaner company was called and Dyno Rod came to clean the drains. Their engineer Mike Cattran came on February 5, 1983. Cattran got suited up and removed the manhole cover before he went down to investigate, because the blackage wasn’t a simple fix of wiggle a poop out. So he went down to the sewers besides the house. So he got down there and found a substance that looked subsciously like human flesh. This slugly substance that was eight inches thick and composed of thirty to forty pieces of human flesh. After his findings, Cattran called his supervisor and informed him of the maybe human flesh. His supervisor told Cattran they would come back tomorrow at first light. Nilsen made a comment that maybe somebody was flushing fried chicken. During the middle of the night Nilsen  ponder sucide, but didn’t go through with it once again, after a midnight cleaning.  

23 Carnley Gardrns

So in the middle of the night Nilsen got up and emptied the sewer of the flesh, maybe he changed his heart he doesn’t want to go to jail. His neighbors saw his going up and down the stairs at 2-3am which he had a weird alibi for. Later that morning, he went to work and joked with a co-worker “If I’m not here tomorrow I’m ill, in jail, or dead.” He was foreshadowing himself wasn’t he? By tomorrow he was in jail. 

During that day the Dyno Rod company returned and found the manhole cover was in a different place than yesterday. Cattran and his supervirouser went down and when they came upon no pounds of flesh only a little bit and some bone fragments. No fried chicken in the drain, they were both undeniably human so they called the police. The skin they found was part of the neck and showed signs of strangulation and was confirmed by a Pathologist to be human.  

When Nilsen got home from work that day there were three officers waiting in his hallway for him. Nilsen looks at them and asks why their there Detective Chief Inspector Peter Jay replied,  “We are here to inspect your drains.” Nilsen being a smart man or not so much ask “since when do cops inspect drains?” Detective Jay replies “when dead people are in them.” Nilsen tries to act surprised that they were dead people in the drains, when he was the one putting them there. Detective Jay eventually says “stop messing around.” After some hesitation Nilsen tells Detective Jay where the plastic bags were in the wardrobe. Detective Jay checks the bags and arrested Nilsen on the spot and on the ride to police station asked him how many bodies. Nilsen replied originally as he say “12-13”, but the media somehow screwed it up to “14-15” so will go with 12-15 murders for this case. This was in February 1978. There was also questions about going down to the drains at 2-3 am in the morning his reason. He was cutting out the middle man he was peeing directly into the drains, but later was confirmed that was a lie. 

Some of his unidentified victims are at the Black Museum.

The police officers found the torsos in the wardrobe, Sinclair’s head in a chest warped in news paper, legs were stuffed under the cupboard in the bathroom. Nelson forgot a lot of the times where he put bodies so it was a miracle he remembered all the killings to since he blacked out into a killing rage most of the time. What evidence was found besides loads of bodies was a map of Ockonden’s map, Duffey’s knives, the cooking pot, headphones, and more. 

Nilsen then was questioned for a while and he knew his rights, and spoke about every murder in gursome detail. He told the police about the other flat and went there with the officers to help find the bodies. What the police found wasn’t really bodies, they there found over one thousand bone fragments at Melrose Avenue in Cricklewood. The largest archaeologist dig in modern history. In one week he told over thirty hours of his murders to the police. Nilsen was held in jail for Sinclair’s murder otherwise he would of been released after twenty four hours. After finding so many bone fragments the Hansie Police Station formed a special unit that was estabishlied to trace as many of the victims as they could. They did get Scotland yard’s cooperation to get access to their missing person Bureau, still only seven victims were identified, by the time of trail. The Medical College of London Hospital joined the task of identifying the victims remains they survived the attempts of Nilsen’s attempt to destroy the evidence. The college managed to put together a jigsaw of bones, teeth, and fragments scoring a success. This victim was Graham Allen he was identified by his dental records. Though his identification came too late to charge Nilsen with at trail. He was confined to his jail cell besides for thirty minutes a day, those thirty minutes were for exercise.

This is how his flat was once laid out.

8Nilsen was represented by a local solicitor Ronald Moss, then dispensed with his legal aid, then reinstated him. Though nearing the trial he fried Moss and hired Ralph Haeems the lawyer of his then lover David Martin. Daivd Martin was a crossdressing robber who was exclutlent at escaping. He also against wearing the prison uniform and the magistrate’s were sympathetic. Nilsen thought his cooperation should’ve earned some preaks and privagles, which it doesn’t unless you go the extra mile, maybe become a snitch or have intercourse with guards. When they didn’t come he threw his camber pot or slop bucket at a guard and got a fifty six day plenty for assaulting an officer. Haeems went with “diminished responsibility” defense citing a mental abnormality in Nilsen. Thanks to his family’s past.

As the trail went on he was to be charged with six counts of murder and two counts of appemted murder.  There were two psychiatrists for the defense team that definitely thought he had some mental disorder like a personality disorder or schizoid. But the prosecutor psychiatric thought otherwise. He spent the most time with Nilsen fourteen hours overall and found Nilsen to just be manipulative, with some mental abnormalities, but no mental illness. Three out four attempted murdered victims took the stand, Carl Stotter, Douglas Stewart, and Paul Nobbs. Nilsen sold his story to the press and he would tell Haeems anything that was different from each witness story when they didn’t fit with Nilsen memory and story, and then watch them fumble and try to explain on the stand. Some of the evidence used in court was the cooking pot, cutting board, Duffey’s knives, and his interviews which they crammed into four hours. Nilsen said maybe to get a lighter punishment or he did mean it “I have judged myself more harshly than any court ever could.” You ask why only six counts of muder and two counts of attempted murder because Garham Allen was identified to late to inclue in the stencing. Though they brought up Allen case and Nobbs case was dropped. During the summoning up the judge said “that a mind can be evil without being abnormal.” The jury left and deliberated and found him guilty on all accounts, which Nilsen plead innocent to, when the trail began. 

Nilsen was taken back to jail where he was injured by a fellow jailer who cut his face and torso making Nilsen get eighty nine stitches after. Nilsen looking slimmer thanks to the stress of the trial, but that was over. He did many things behind bars that the guards are probably happy he is dead now. He translated books to braille, played the piano, wrote about him, talked about himself, anything to do with him was his favorite. He did try and get gay porn into prison, but they didn’t allow that in. So he was back to being a social justice warrior, this time not in the picket lines. He went around naked till he got his porn darn it, give him porn now! Though his last victim wasn’t a human in fact she was his fuzzy side kick, Bleep. The police department didn’t think anyone would want a serial killer’s dog, so they had their vet put her down, she was only six, poor Bleep. If I was alive then I would of taken Bleep, she seemed sweet and shy, but loveable. Why put her down when she was just loving her human?

Nilsen was allowed to give an interview from prison in 1992 and while he had alone time probably had more fantasies, but wrote a four hundred page book called A History of a Drowning Boy. He wasn’t allowed to publish the book, but if you look hard you’ll find it. He has inspired many songs and books and here are just some: “You’re Dying To Be With Me,” he influenced Poppy Z. Brite’s Exquisite Corpse, “Killing for Company,” “Cranley Gardens,” and “Turnabout.” 

8Nilsen did just die in prison on May 12, 2018. He rushed into emergency surgery, but died because of a blood clot at the age of 72. Now some might say Nilsen was a monster and killed for no reason, I don’t sympathize with him, but the 70’s and 80’s were a rough time to be gay. He was disowned and had a rough childhood, and saw his favorite person dead at the age of six. I myself dealt with death young but I am no killer or neophile. Maybe Nilsen did just kill for company because he didn’t find the right person and he wanted too. He gave up on love to fast. Yes everybody compares him Jeferry Damher, who wanted his victims in a zombie like state more so than dead. So would they be a perfect couple no, they both wanted the perfect passive partner, maybe for killing yes perfect couple for that. I listened to a podcast that saw similtiers within other serial killers than Dahmer, he isn’t the only famous killer oh my! BTK for how he would bind and then kill. Nilsen liked to sometimes bind his victims up and then kill them not often though. He also had two worlds he lived in the “real world” and his “fantasy world.” For the last serial killer Nilsen is like John Wayne Gacy because Gacy kept his kills in the basement and Nilsen kept his corpses under floorboards. Apparently if you can’t decide what to keep as souvenirs keep the whole body. 

Nilsen after the attack

I do believe Nilsen had some personality disorders like BPD, but I am not educated in psychology so I can’t profile him like that. Nilsen was the most prolific serial in London for many years, till his title was taken. He is now buried and his trusted friends if you wish to call them that have what he left behind. Maybe one day in the future his autobiography will be published. Till then we will have to see.  His Cricklewood flat still stands today and has a lovely forgein couple living there. For Carnley Gardens it still stands but is unoccupied. Some say his Cricklewood flat has an uneasiness about it still that someone still lurks there, maybe Nilsen is looking for his perfect lover. 

David Martin

Thank you for reading this far, even if yu didn’t let me know. I hope to see you next time have a great time.

Dennis Nilsen music

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The untold story of many lost souls

The Cage

This case is a lot different than the last one more on the paranormal side than true crime. This case or more of history unfolding is about the witches in Essex in the 16th century. Ursula Kemp was a midwife and healer, she attended many births and helped the sick when needed. One of her neighbors Grace had a sick son and asked for Ursula’s help. Ursula cured him temporarily and Grace paid the fee. Everything is going fine until Grace got lame, she was unable to use her arms or legs becoming suddenly disabled. So Grace asked once again Ursula to cure her.

Ursula did and asked for 12 Pence in United States dollars it is $0.15 in today’s money. Though Grace refused to pay the fee claiming it was to high. Her lame was gone, but her and Ursula fought over the money and Ursual vowed to get back at Grace. Davey her son fell ill again, her lame returned, and her infant daughter fell off her cot breaking her neck and dying, all within a short while. Grace thought all this happened from a curse or a hex put on her from Ursula her life once so great falling apart. So she went to the Magistrate’s office sparking a local investigation and witch hunt in the village.

Ursula was held in The Cage in 1582 with 13 other women and many people testified against her during her trial.One neighbor named Brian D’Arcy made her own son testify against her, 8 year old Thomas was forced to provide evidence that his own mother was a witch. She was accused of many offenses such as causing death by sorcery, preventing beer from brewing, and more. It is alleged she confessed to these crimes and named other witches out she broke the bro code or is it witch code? Either way she did tell on a few witches in town and they told on few and everyone pointed fingers at each other, it was a mess. No one knows but those women if they were not a witch.

Three witches were hung and five died even before trial. Ursula Kemp and Elzibeth Bennette were two of them, many more people died here though. If you were proven guilty your children or kid, your family all together was left to themselves. So many kids stole to survive or they just died on the streets and now haunt the The Cage looking for their mother or father. This cage was in use until 1908 so for another few hundred years. It was used as regular prison and as sick house for people with the plaque many souls of the damned have passed in and out of these walls, even if you don’t believe in ghosts this place does have some  massive energy.

The plaque outside the cottage

Since most of the poor criminals went here like children stealing and anyone doing what was needed to survive the guards were not nice to them, there was one guard who would torture them and abuse them. The prison system today seems like a walk in the park compared to back then. The people in The Cage were changed to the walled, jammed in there, no light, but a small skylight, freezing cold or burning hot, little to no food, and just enough water to survive. These ghosts are still present and walking the halls well tiny passageways of the cottage and Cage. Either trying to find loved ones or are trapped for other reasons since no one had good memories at The Cage.

If you want to know the reason for some of the tension King Henry the VIII in 1534 he outlawed Catholicism and created the church of England. If you were a practicing caltholic it would be punished by death. Beside this the ever growing divide between the classes and sexes got even greater. It left the women and the dissable to get all the negative attention. So if you practiced Catholicism you practiced in secret and told no one if you did. If you spilled the secret you die, maybe this was the spark of the many witch trials that happened in Britain?

Which in turn created a growing fear and anger, it was the perfect breeding ground for superstitions all around the country. The witch trials in Essex was just the beginning if you wish to put it into perspective the Salme witch trials did not happen till 1692-1693. Everything happens in time including witch trials all over the world. Some still take place nowadays.  

There is an alleyway to the side of the house that was used to move the bodies of the dead to their graves and to the locals and now anyone with access to the internet it is known as the coffin alleyway. Some say the bodies were moved on carts others say they were just carried down the alley there unconergratied graves for hopefully there forever rest for some it wasn’t. Some sources say there is some bodies buried under The Cage, that is why so many things happen there, no peaceful resting ground for the dead or the living.   

This cottage is high on energy and ghosts and many people have owned it over the years. On average every three years the owner moves out of the place since it was turned into a house, in 1908. Though in early 2000s a man by the name of Phil owned the property and killed himself by hanging on the stairway from a beam. He is maybe a restless soul that now haunts though halls of The Cage. He was found by his wife hanging there, and she later moved out.

This cottage and medieval prison wasn’t in the social eye for years, well to much until just recently, when the now owner bought the Medieval prison and cottage. Vanessa Mitchell bought this cottage already knowing it was haunted, which did not bother her she says she has seen ghosts since she was a kid. So she packed up her house sold her old one in Newcastle and moved to St. Osyth within weeks.

Vanessa did one thing she normally would never do and called a telephone medium and they talked about normal things. Plus Vanessa asked about The Cage and basically if you believe mediums they said she was chosen by the house to be the next caretaker. As she moved in she had some activity on the first day. The First year there she lived with her friend and flatmate Nichole. One day Vanessa came home and saw something on the contour and picked it up and saw it was Phil’s death certificate which there was only one copy ever issued and it was given to his wife. This one that appeared had no wrinkles and she just thought maybe Nichole found it so she asked Nichole about it later. Nichole didn’t know anything about it. So Vanessa showed it to many people around town and to friends. Later on she contacted his wife and told her she had a copy of the death certificate, the wife replied that was impossible since she had the only copy and Vanessa told her to ask the many people in town who she showed the certificate to that she was telling the truth.

The hauntings was easier to handle together and it wasn’t as evil or dark then. One time they were seated in the living room together and saw what Vanessa describes as sparkly stars, Nichole as lights. They disappeared after a bit, the magical thing was they saw these lights in the day not at night. Everyone believes paranormal happens at night. One other thing that happened to Vanessa she was in the living room again and a woman apperaded with an oval shaped bowl. In the bowl was herbs or leaves and this woman sprinkled them over Vanessa’s head then walked on disappearing. Vanessa felt this entity was a good one and meant no harm.

She had many experiences within this home if you dare to call it that, since she stayed there for three years. Over the years it just got worse and her friends did not come back well some of them for sure. There was a black mass that went from the floor to the ceiling but it just more powerful and bigger as the years went on. Some things she experienced was growling, foot steps, children’s laughter, a satanic goat, some clawing at the floorboards from underneath them, the chains swinging, and many more things.

She invited friends over for tea and they walked in through the cottage and went into the kitchen to boil the kettle for tea then went to sit down in the living room once done. While talking then army Sergeant got up and kneeled down and touched what he thought was blood and it was indeed blood then looked how it got there. The windows weren’t open, no doors open, no possible logical reason how it got there and their other friend and hematologist a blood doctor, got up shortly after him. Looked at the blood spatter and yelled at him he knew not to touch blood without gloves that is how convinced they were it was blood. The wooden floor is now covered with carpet.

The upstairs bathroom always seems to be a hell hole for mediums. This was true for Vanessa too, she told everyone of only two stories one where an entity spanked here and toothpaste went everywhere. This entity to her felt demonic and evil. Another incident that happened in the upstairs bathroom when Vanessa was pregnant, just getting ready for the day then bam she was shoved into the other room, luckily not down the stairs.

You would think she would move out by now? No she didn’t she stayed for a few more months mainly because she was a single mother and she had a huge mortgage to pay on this cottage. The last straw for Vanessa was a few months later and her baby Jesse was only a few months old. She didn’t dare leave him alone in any room, but she had to iron a few things. So she went downstairs to the actual Cage room and ironed a shirt or two and then Jesse’s toys started to go off. She ignored them as long as she could not wanting to feed the spirits and then headed upstairs to check on Jesse. Where there was a man hovering over him in modern clothes. That was the last straw for her, she couldn’t even iron clothes and leave her child for a few minutes that is what drew the line. Within weeks probably less then when she moved in they were out of there, sharing one single room in a friends house.

This is just a brief history of Vanesa’s story and of the witches that were held there. Many people have come to investigate it from Americans to locals. If you do want to tour this place you can’t it as of now unless you wish to buy it. Though there was a period of time that the house was open for paranormal crews to come in and research. The dark beauty of this cottage is mustard yellow and tends to always make the seller beware, because of the plague right outside the house. Who would want a house with this much history attached to it?

This house has such a dark past yet the town won’t buy it nor the community to make it a museum of some sorts. This would be a better option than having humans living here and getting hurt and scared to death or killing themselves because of the house. I know a house can’t kill you but one like this can drive a sane person crazy so in a way yes it can kill you.

Now I said something about paranormal crews going to check out The Cage and many have gone and luckily all returned no harm done. Before we get into this section you need to know the abbreviations for their tools they use.  First off we have the REM-POD. It has a 360 degree of coverage and detects energy disturbances and fluctuations. The REM-POD uses lights and sounds to alert of change in if anything comes in close contact with it and the ATDD alters about temperature change +5/-5 only around the REM-POD in small 360 area. REM stands for radiating electromagnetism.

EVP or electronic voice phenomenon, are sounds found in electronic recordings that are interpreted as spirit voices. These voices have either been recorded intentionally by asking questions or unintentionally. People get the best results when using a spirit box a device that puts out static and/or other broken nosies the spirits can manipulate to talk to the living. That is when we have the best results with help through a device.

EMF or Electromagnetic field is a physical field produced by moving electrically charged objects. These objects are normally not what they appear, a phone can trigger it but only if held right next to the device. Power lines are not a trigger and the power was not trigger. This time since the time I wrote about the power was turned off. Other crews that went there got high readings is very bizarre, why though? No one maxed out like this crew though even when the power was off.

So you know Vanessa and you know her stories that went here, she spread them like wildfire and told them to every paranormal crew that came if she was with them. However some of the crews didn’t speak with here and some spoke with her business team that took over until just recently. Since she is trying to sell the house once again hopefully for the last time.

Every crew came in with the same knowledge of The Cage and if not they learned more from Vnaessa, but she didn’t stay for the filming at night. She is still spooked out till today about what she saw in there. She does claim it is still haunted, of course. She did have two professionals come and cleanse the house about a year ago in the name of God.

There is crazy EMF readings while the power was turned off in The Cage and just everywhere downstairs. The EMF readings were off the chart when the device was near the ground. When they headed upstairs they set it down and it was still in the yellow area it did go down when they stopped asking questions to the entity. Though when they reganged with them it went back up almost maxing out. After that, they headed back downstairs and the EMF didn’t go off as much they waited a few minutes and tested it again and it maxed out again. Why did the EMF readings here max out so much, not every crew had so high of readings but they did have weird things go on nonetheless.

Two different crews have gone in and both have been scratched. One person was in the middle of going to the bathroom and Nathan was finishing the tour of The Cage . The one who was taking a bathroom break was scratched on the leg and he couldn’t of been filming it of course, but as soon as he was done he showed his friends and everyone on livestream too. After the freakout about the scratch they did one thing I highly advise against. They did a ouija board session live and oh boy they so many things wrong in the tiny clip from the livestream they left in. Nathan was upstairs showing off the master bedroom, kids room/bedroom, and the upstairs bathroom. When his friend looked at him and saw that he had a scratch on his neck. They both left the house for a bit to gather a breath before going back inside for the rest of the night no more injuries happen for those two. Other investigators have been hurt though. Other crews have experienced bleeding from the eyes supposedly.

There are CCTV cameras that are set up to monitor The Cage 24/7 and one of the things Vanessa would see most often was the original chains swinging side to side. In that room people have felt stabbing pain and the most disturbances actually happen upstairs in the master bedroom, which is right above the actual Cage. Even though most if not all mediums refuse to go into the bathroom. On one video they open the door a crack and just flat out closed it a second later swearing and storming away from the door, what is behind the door besides a bathroom? No one knows besides the mediums but they dare not enter. I think Phil is the person who haunts the bathroom maybe if not it is one of the Guards and they are now basically the root of the evil in the house.

There has been many EVP sessions done here in each room of the cottage. These rooms gave very unique answers each time. Most of the time it just sounds like static of course but you do get the answers like “please help”, “come on give up”, “me”, “I’ve been in prison leave me alone”, and “a big thank you” these are just a few of the crews got. Besides the many times they got laughter.

Now these people basically take their lives in their own hands when they do this because they provoke the spirits to get an answer out of them, not recommended. They got nearly pushed down the stairs because they asked for it. Another time one crew taunted them for ten minutes or so before he heard footsteps to his left. If look or well more listen laughter is very noticable for ghost or are these polargeist? Well there probably a mix of both, in my opinion since I’ve never been there and can’t say for certain from online.

Besides the chains swinging there is weight in the kitchen and no one was around it and it just fell for no reason. They tried to it back but it just fell again so they left it down. Many crews came with motion sensitive cameras and they went off and the REM-POD would beep for disturbance when they were filming. No one ever had nothing happen to them though. One crew came and no one got physically hurt, but one did get drained of his energy. If you were to watch the cameras that Vanessa had you would see orbs a lot of them, the same in the videos not as many though as Vanessa capture on her security cameras.  

Now we know this all can chalked up to other things that made these things happened. I agree with that, but would you take actual evidence of some object moving? There was a knife placed in the kids room and was left there as the crew did the investigation. When they came back it had moved, so is this haunted who knows. Though we aren’t done yet.

Is this a witch possessing a women?

We know the bodies were buried in unconsecrated graves close by or even under the house. We know of two skeletons that were found by a man named Mr. Brooker in 1921 who was trending to his garden. One skeleton at this time was badly damaged and they were clearly not near a burial grounds. He had some knowledge of the area and of the supposed witches that were there a long time ago. He decided to cash in on it and arranged visits from the public who wanted to see the “witches” skeletons. The only problem was his house burned down in 1923 it halted the interest in what was believed to be Ursula Kemp’s body and her remains were reburied on site.

Now we travel again through time 30 years later and there is redevelopment project going on which caused the illegal exhuming of “Ursula Kemp’s” skeleton. Though this time it wasn’t for local fame or for money Cecil Williamson made sure of that, he bought her skeleton. I know that sounds creepy, but he owned the Witchcraft Museum in Boscastle. He promised to safeguard her and never exploited her again. Though he did sell the museum before he died he didn’t include the skeleton we call “Ursula” in the collection.

Her last “owner” was named Robert Lenkiewicz who had a fascination with witchcraft and the occult, along with many more things. He kept her body along with a local embalmed tramp in his library. Where he probably got inspiration as he painted. When he died he was in massive debt so “Ursula” was left to be sorted out with the rest of his belongings.

Though a “knight in shining armour” came one day and started spreading the history once again of the witch trials in Essex. He then spent hours in negotiation with the trustees for Lenkiewicz’s estate. He got our girl “Ursual” and carbon dated her bones first off and she was from the 16th century and there is iron nail fragments in her legs. He then started working on getting her reburided again for the third time. “Ursula” was finally put to rest in an unconservative grave with both Pagen and Christian representatives present. The skeleton “Ursula” was finally laid to rest and hopefully for the last time. This was a poignant and symbolic gesture for her and her fellow accused.   

One of the many “witches”

The Cage has so many untold stories still left to tell from the paranormal to its history. I hope we one day that we can understand it all. I know we won’t, but if we can discover the rest of the history and stories of this Cage then I think that is great. There are seven Cages left in Britain and this is only one of them and it is only one of them with such special history.

May the souls and everyone who goes and comes through here, hopefully find what they need and one day rest in peace. Is The Cage haunted, well we have many videos with proof or supposed proof. To me it is undeniably, but is it to you? I hope one day the damned souls trapped on earth no matter where and how many there are, are finally released to the afterlife. May The Cage and it’s history remind you of history it is always there, so what education is next? How many souls are going to die from the Drauf Genicode? How many are trapped? Let’s hope our world doesn’t get over run by the dead. May all the dead rest in peace.  

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Camp Scott

This story is not safe for anyone under the age of 13 so please be advised and read on at your risk. I will put trigger warnings in for the rape.

This crime story has baffled many of detectives from the local authorities to the FBI. This is the story about the Girl Scout Murders, it happened in 1977 on June 13. Three girls were killed the youngest was Lorie Lee Farmer age 8, Michelle Heather Guse age 9, and Doris Denise Milner age 10. These three girls shared tent 8 as everyone calls it when at the camp it was referred as tent 7, since the consulars tent had no number.

Before these girls were murdered though two months before this the consulars were at Camp Scott for training. During this time they found one of their tents ransacked some money stolen, donuts eaten, and a note was left behind in the empty box of donuts. No one really can recall what the note says fully. Since the counselor who found it thought it was just a morib prank and threw it away. They believe it said something along the lines of “We are here on a mission to kill three girls in tent one.”

Over the next few months more and more things went missing, and  Saturday the 11, at camp the camp caretaker saw a strange man on camp. A few consulars saw strange men. Then the camp caretaker found a big piece of a tent missing the day of camp, it was about the size of  4 inches by 5 inches. He patched it up with cloth for the day but would have to repatch it later on. This was enough to close the camp you think? Weird people wondering camp, things going missing, a slash in a tent. No it wasn’t camp went on this was a tragic mistake.

Though even before this year they had traffic of random people in and out of camp, peeping Tom’s and such. None of these weird people and hunters did anything to the girls, luckily. But in 1977 all that changed, was it for better or for worse we shall never know.

Denise was a lovely girl this was her first year at camp, she was excited to go till she found out her friends weren’t coming. Then she didn’t want to go, and asked her mother if she could stay home. Though her loving mother told her not to worry and she could call home if she wanted to come home and go have fun. She was looking after her mother and sister since her mother and father divorced she would help her mother out however she could by making breakfast to watching her sister. She was also very active she sang in the church choir, did tap dance, was going to go to a prestigious middle school next year, and in gymnastics. Her father was a cop her mother a teacher but went back to school and worked at the hospital sometime after Denise died. She was a fun loving child and sold so many cookies so she could afford camp that summer, she didn’t know anyone since her friends didn’t come she shared a tent with Michele and Lori.

After she was away at camp her little sister Kathy was with their mother and asked what if everyone dies? Her mother did her best to explain people die daily and people are born daily into this world, so it evened out, even though it is sad for the families who lost members. Her mother thought she was doing this for attention since Denise was getting so much lately. But she wasn’t Kathy then said “Mama tomorrow everyone is going to die.” The next day the three girls were found dead at Camp Scott.

Michelle was a Girl Scout since 1974 and had been to camp one time before at the age of 7. She was active in sports and part of her local soccer team. Michelle was murdered the day before her parents anniversary, may that day forever be a reminder off their happy girl. Before she left, she left a detailed note for her mother how to take care of her African Violets. Her parents had to find out from the news how she actually died they knew she was dead just didn’t know how she died. It took a few days before they turned on the tv during those days her father would try and get out of the house and would be harassed by the papers about his little girl. He was getting so fed up he was about to punch them before he turned and back inside. He just happened to have the news on when he turned the tv on and finally saw how his little girl died after so many trying days with the media.

Lori was only 8 and most sources say the youngest camper at Camp Scott. She was advanced a grade with an IQ of 130, a smart cookie. To put it in perspective 10 IQ points higher already than a college graduate. Saturday would of been her 9th birthday, her parents were going to come to camp to celebrate it with her there. Her father was the third person the camp director called you think the other two parents first right? No she called the insurance company then their auntory office, then him. Why do you ask, to cover the camp’s ass so they couldn’t get sued, which the parents did try and didn’t succeed. Her mother had a hard time not blaming herself for Lori’s death since Lori wanted to go to camp and she picked Camp Scott or White Hand. Lori’s mother chose Camp Scott and the two weeks she went and she knows it has nothing to do with it but she deals with the guilt since she picked it. Her father was on duty when Lori was brought into the morgue, he brought a co-worker home to tell his wife the bad news. He told her to sit and refused so he just told her, her little girl who once was so full of life was now dead and molested. After the news she could barely hold herself up on her own two feet.

Each parent or sets of parents are somehow now involved with victim rights and such today. They wanted to not have this happen to another family again down the road. Lori’s mother decided to take up cases of victims rights for thousands of people or Parents of Murdered Children. The Guse’s work on Victims Compensation Law, Oklahoma Crime Victims Compensation Board, Oklahoma Victims Bills of Rights. Calar one of the camp counselors became a police officer, and 22 OSBI resigned, Camp Scott closed and is now used for hunting grounds.

Camp Scott now

Since it is a Girl Scout camp, they brought their children to the Tulsa headquarters, and made sure all the girls were on the busses and had all their luggage before they watched them depart in the Greyhound busses. This was the last time any of the kids parents saw them alive. The busses were pulling away from the Girl Scout headquarters in Tulsa Oklahoma as they waved goodbye. What no one knew this would be their last goodbye.

Lotus Grove was a 40 miles from Tulsa so the consulars on the bus led them in song to pass time till they got to camp only two miles from Locust Grove, is Camp Scott Soon enough at camp they started heading down the Cookie trail and kids started chatting the camp units named one after another. Osage, Chickasaw, Creek, Seminole, Choctaw, Comanche, Cherokee, Quapaw, Arapahoe, Kiowa. Kiowa is the farthest away from the other camp units, closest to the woods. In the units there would be 28 girls and 4 consulars, but Kiowa was short a camper so in tent 8 they had 3 campers only. Each unit is shaped in half a circle around the kitchen area and meeting area. The problem was because of that you couldn’t see tent 8 from the counselors tent it was blocked off, though it was the closest to the bathroom. From counselor’s tent you could only see two tents at most along with the meeting area and the kitchen area.

These tents were on platforms 2 feet off the ground and are 12 feet by 14 feet. What also made this tent not so great beside being secluded is it was 75 feet away from any other tent. Another problem was this was the 1970s the campsites were nearly pitch black after dark besides the lights outside the bathroom. Make sure to pack extra batteries and use the buddy system always otherwise you could be the next lost camper five air horn blast for you! Which if you never went to Girl Scout Camp it means lost camper. Now that we know the girls and the basic campsite let’s get into the story.

The camp has 400 to 410 acres. The buses brought 140 kids to camp and if they were divided as they were supposed to be they would only need 5 campsites, not all 10, if each site held 28 kids. They divide the campers into groups of 28 per unit so of course some sites would be short kids. Camp Scott was partially gated at night, but it couldn’t keep no one in or out. They were there for looks and aesthetics. Plus if anyone did get in from the lack of security the counselors were told to just tell them “this is private land please leave.” Most of the time it worked! Yay right well we know now what they didn’t then, that if your luck for 50 years it doesn’t matter step up your security measures Girl Scouts and report things to the counsual!

There is always problems with camp we learn from them, this one we learned big time though. May we never need this lesson taught to us again, the monster who killed the girls was truly that a monster and twisted in the brain. Who knows maybe the killer just did this for fun or to find a new thrill since nothing else in my mind makes since. When does killing a person make sense though? Please comment below besides if they threaten a cop and stuff, give me a better reason than that, my spooky readers.

The busses arrived at 3pm and dropped them off everyone was checked into the camp and was sent to find a tent or in our victims case were put together since they were the odd girls out with no one else to tent with. They got along and became friends quickly as they unpacked placing their extra bags on the spare cot. Eventually all the girls where all gathered at the main hall and led in song before dinner. Then around 5:30pm they had dinner, after dinner they were sent back to camp sites, if it was like my camp they would of had opening campfire if it didn’t storm because it stormed everyone was soaked.

Once back at the tents they changed and wrote letters home, even though it was the first day it was mostly how much fun it was besides for Denise she still wanted to come home and wanted to call home. Well in there tents they played games and bonded. Some of the games they could of played are stella ella ola, cards, rock rock, and other camp games, if brave enough flashlight tag, or things they brought. Later on they were called out to the meeting area. In the meeting area they got cookies and a story of Winnie the Pooh read to them before sent back to the tents around 9pm they were told lights out, if you were in the older campsites it was 10:30pm.

So far the day has been going good for everyone besides the slash in the tent. Then around 1:30am Carla woke up and heard what some say is a moaning gruntal sound others say a mix of a bullfrog and other animalistic sounds. There are reports that at least two camp counselors saw a man in the woods this night with a dimmed flashlight he would turn it off as soon as he saw a regular light beam coming close to his. He would wait a few minutes and turn his back on. A little girl reported she felt someone pull on her raincoat that night as she went to the bathroom. In tent 6 or 7 a man opened the flaps and stared in for minutes before he went away to his next stop. A girl was awake and had the flashlight shining into her face so she couldn’t see the persons face, but she did see a figure. Kids were screaming and sleep walking, some kids say someone was walking around their tent. Tent 5 in Kiowa woke up Carla and Dee by slamming the bathroom door, they were escorted back to their tent. They were laying bed awake and heard moaning and low gruntal noises checked it out and it stopped but started again soon after, they fell asleep shortly after. The consulars ride all this off as first night jitters and/or pranks.

Around 3 a.m. screaming was heard throughout camp and no one went to see what it was even though you could hear it 1,200 feet away. When they awoke there glasses, and purses were stolen.We do know he went into many tents taking glasses from each tent trying them on and discarding the glasses when done with them we don’t know why This killer or killers are pretty twisted in the brain to kill three sweet little girls.

We do know the screams and other noises were heard throughout the night and all over camp most claimed these screams were from Kiowa unit. Other areas did have other noises and screams but most of the screams came from Kiowa. A girl from Quapaw who knew Lori heard someone screaming out “momma!” And wondered if this was Lori calling out for her mother since she called out for her mother on the last camping trip they did, since she had a nightmare.

The morning of June 13 1977 Carla woke up early for a shower and turned off her alarm as quickly as she could. She grabs her things and walks the same trail she did last night to the bathhouse, on the fork in the road she saw something by a tree and went to check it out under the tree she saw a kid. Right away she ran back to her tent and woke up Susan and Dee she told them to do a headcount she believes one or more of their campers are dead. She then runs to wake the camp nurse and the camp director.

Well Carla is doing that Susan and Dee are going around to the 7 tents and counted 24 kids all the kids in tent 8 were missing. The girls were 150 feet away from their tent laying dead by a tree.  As soon as director was awake her and her husband came to the kids and called 911 and stated they needed 3 ambulances because they had 3 bodies. No one touched the girls in their sleeping bags one yellow plaid, one dark green, and one red flower pattern.

*Trigger warning*

Denise was out of her yellow plaid sleeping bag nude from the waist down she was clearly raped and sodomized. She had her hands tied behind her back and taped together, she was killed and she was hit five or three times on the head, before she was knocked unconscious many believe. If she was conscious she would of been made to walk to the tree where she met her untimely death. She had a gag in her mouth and it looked to be homemade, she was suffocated to death maybe by the gag that was taped over her mouth. Had many hits on the face, so she didn’t even look like herself.

Lori and Michelle we’re both killed in the tent their bags still zipped shut both presumably naked from the waist down. They were also molested and Michelle was hogged tied a rope wrapped around one wrist in fetal position the rope went up around her bum then tied to her other hand. Both girls were killed from blunt force trauma. The weapon could of been a camp axe or the 9-volt flashlight. Wounds on the girls were 2 inches by ¾ inches. Lori still had a flashlight between her legs, so she could find easy in the middle of the night. Lori had one hit to the head and she died instantly from that still asleep she didn’t feel anything sleeping peacefully, most likely. Michelle was probably hit three to five times before she died she was molested and raped, she died of blunt force trauma in their tent. Both or all three girls were carried 150 feet, the killer did this all with in hours.

*end of trigger warning*

The tent was covered in blood and was tried to be cleaned up or at least tried to wipe away evidence. The mattress crover and other supplies the killer used to clean up was stuffed into the sleeping bags. They were found at the bottom of the sleeping bags of Lori’s and Michelle’s.

Once the sheriff was called the responders showed up and started attending the scene. What shocked me was the photographer was a newspaper photographer they used to photograph the scene. The photographer is still scared by the scene till today. He took the pictures and the bags were still not open at 10:00am, 4 hours later.

The campers were woken up by the bell at 7 a.m. and went to the mess hall to eat. After that they were told to go pack their bags, as they did they probably had many questions. They were kept away from the crime scene and kept busy till the busses came to take them away. There was one or a few campers that saw the crime scene, but the counselors tried to make sure they didn’t. They told the kids that it was water problem or just an accident happened on why they are going home. The campers didn’t get on the busses till 2:45pm so they had to try to keep them busy and not to disturb the crime scene, the campers went swimming, did arts and crafts, and more. As they waited more and more officers showed up and their parents began to worry more and more.

The campers load onto the busses they were on just yesterday and take the same ride home 40 miles back, this time a ride full of glom and not so much full song. As soon as they were at the headquarters and got off the busses their parents hugged them and some cried in relief that their child was still alive and unharmed. Most of the kids didn’t understand what was going on until later when they asked about it.

Eventually the bags were opened and the girls were examined, at the morgue and Lori looked like she was just sleeping. The cop thought she would just wake up at any moment and knew she wouldn’t.

The scene was then looked over and many things were there. The was a flashlight with either green or black plastic with a hole poked in it, it was taped on with masking tape. Inside the 9-volt red and white flashlight in the battery compartment was a piece of newspaper Tulsa edition from April 17, 1977. With that was black duct tape, rope, inside the tent was a military boot print about a size 7, and a handprint that belonged to an OSBI. Semin was found in the girls, a hair was found, a fingerprint found on the lens of the flashlight. This was all collected very sloppy.

Then in the end of July 1977 a pair of tennis shoes show up with Denise’s name in them. they showed up at Camp Scott at the building that was used formerly as the command post by law enforcement. The Milner Family said they weren’t her’s. Another source says she was just missing shoe and eventually it just turned up back at Camp Scott.

*trigger warning*

The detectives started a list of suspects and one name stuck out to people Gene Leroy Hart. Other people were looked at out patients from mental hospitals and prisoners who had a history of sexual assault. Hart had already done a crime like this, he kidnapped two pregnant women age 19 Joan and Barbara from a bar. Put one in a trunk and the other in the back seat and raped one of them before driving to the woods. He took out the tape and taped their faces. He covered their mouth first he stuffed a rag in first before taping over it then he went over their eyes before sealing of their nose and the last source of air. He took them both out to the woods and raped them. He was able to climax 3 times in such a short amount of time. After he was done he tied them just like tied Michelle up rope one wrist then around the bum to the other wrist. He then wanted to make sure they would surely die best friends and the babies they carry. He put a noose around their necks which tightens as they try to escape. One of the women wore glasses and they were taken from her and he wore them on off during the ride and during the crime. Once he did that he put branches over them and left them for dead. One of them managed to escape almost choking to death as she did and she freed her friend. They ran to the highway and flagged down a truck and got a ride back to town before telling the police what happened. With one of them remembering his license plate and both knew how he looked he they both identified him as their rapist. He also made weird animalistic noises as he raped the women.

*trigger warning ending*

He was taken to jail and was not put on trail since he pleaded guilty was supposed to serve 30 years in jail but only did 28 months before he got out on parole. He was out now and tried to make a living or as normal people called it robbing houses. He was eventually brought back to jail because he tried to rob a female officer’s house and failed. He was convicted for four other robberies and was sentenced to 305 years in jail. He served only three years at most before he tried to escape the first time he failed and was sent to a higher security prison after being free for 11 days. He was eventually brought back to lower security prison in 1973 and escaped thanks to a friend who supplied him a hacksaw, and was now on the run for 4 years. He would steal from places to survive and lived with relatives and in the caves during these 4 years we believe. Considering his mother’s house was just under a mile away from Camp Scott.

He was now on the run again well still, but since he was now under higher surqurtiony for this crime more so than ever. The OSBI or the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation was the head of this case and didn’t make it public he was the main suspect of their murders. Sometime in June it was released to the public his description and a sketch of Hart, he was 5ft 10 inches and weighed 220 pounds his shoe size was an 11 and ½ . He was of Native American descent and had brown eyes and dark brown hair.

There was a cave found in the mountains 3 miles away from the crime scene in the mountains surrounding camp. In this cave the authorities found two pictures of women, the newspaper, the missing glasses, and purses, masking tape, rope, plastic that matches the one on the flashlight, and red lacy panties. On the walls of this cave was written “77-6-17 the killer was here bye bye fools”

One article said there was also a bag of flour found within this cave and in that bag of flour that had human excrement in it. This first cave was found by two squirrel hunters and reported in to the OSBI and the authorities.

The cave

Everything in the cave was collected and bagged for evidence and it was noted that the masking tape rip matched exactly to the one on the flashlight. They didn’t release the photos of the two women until later on, when they did they found out who the women were.

The women were daughters of other officers because a ex-prison officer named Louis Lindsey, moonlighted as a photographer. This officer used the jails darkroom and it was one option as job to do in jail. Hart chose to do that, and no one would know if he made an extra copy of the photos for himself.

The search was now having a bit of trouble so they had the Wonder Dogs that was their dubbed name by the media, come they flew in from PA. The dogs were a Rottweiler and two German Shepherds. The team of authorities were gathered and someone said that a medicine man put a curse on the Wonder Dogs, and everyone laughed besides Pratt he is part Cherokee Native American. He knew that it could be true. With in that week the Rottweiler died of heat stroke and one German Shepherd died of walking into traffic. Only one of three dogs survived, they were not what they hoped for the dogs that solved the case back in PA. They followed the trail and it only leads to the middle of a meadow.

If you believe in Native American legends it could because of skinwalkers and that Hart turned into a bird and flew away like many Native Americans believed that to have happened. If you don’t believe that then he could of had a getaway car or ATV or four wheeler for him to ride away from his crime. If they really did pick up on Hart’s smell you never know maybe they got distracted by some good smelly meat?

The authorities followed up on call about a robbery and it was farm that was close to camp that reported things missing that were found at the crime scene. So the OSBI did a search of the place and did see that he was indeed robbed and it was probably by Hart and he that stole what was needed for this crime. He stole the rope, tape, and Jack had to take a polygraph test to prove he didn’t kill the girls and he past.

Agent Pratt separated from the mobile command unit one night to do a ceremony and he just stood by the fire near the creek and smoked cedar as another officer came over and asked if he could join he said yes. So together they smoked tobacco and cedar. He had this gift on him from a medican man to put into the fire to get a new lead so he took it out and put into the fire and within minutes there was call at the mobile command unit.

They also found a second cave that the four fires were found at. Each fire was small and had cedar branches by the fires. The number four is special for Indians because of the four seasons and it holds spiritual power. Since this person was already doing one ceremony he would of course want some tobacco, but if your on the run it can be hard to get. Most Indians want it in the purest form without a filter so if you have cigarettes they just rip off the flitter and by these four campfires, cedar branches, were cigarette filters laying there. So they of course put the photos, the MO, and the Native American ceremony together and knew Hart was their guy for this horrendous crime.

There was a similar crime that happened in Florida in Sarasota at her Girl Scout camp. She was 15 years old it was June 29, 1977 and she was dragged from her tent before dawn broke, her tent mate screamed waking the camp leader. The local Sheriff was called in and deputies found boot prints and bare footprints leading to the old plant nursery, she called her father telling him she was ok. After a few days she was finally returned unharmed, on July 3.  

We don’t know if this was a copycat of a plain Jane/Joe looking for a thrill and not finding it, or if was Hart since his brother-in-law was supposed to drive him down to Florida. They were tipped off that the car had a tracker on it, by one of the people in the police department loyal to them.

We do know since that plan was busted he stayed up in the Cookson hills about 50 miles away from the camp with Pigeon, another Native American. He was eventually ratted out on his hiding place even though he was now four years on the run, ten months under the microscope of every law enforcement there is OSBI, FBI, highway patrol, national guard, bloodhounds, Wonderdogs, heat seeking aircrafts, volunteers all failed to find him. They put in over 10,000 man hours, and when he was finally found thanks to Pegion’s wife they all celebrated. They got their man! A monster who killed little girls for sexuall pleasure. Note this when captured he was wearing womens glasses and when asked if he killed the three girls he replied with “you will never pin this on me.”

He was taken in on April 8, 1978, and his supporters and most of 150 relatives raised money with a chicken BBQ of $12,500. The trail went on and on half the room was filled with 400 of his supporters and the other half the children’s parents and supporters. When they walked in, they felt like they were the guilty party and it was supposed to be the other way around. During the tail on the blackboard it had written on it “Framed” and the Defense let it slip that he would be in jail no matter the outcome of the trail.

When the jury was dismissed it only took 30 minutes the next morning for them to reach a unanimous vote. Their vote was innocent! The defense went crazy celebrating and hugging anyone that wanted a hug. The prosactionor side was crying and for some of the parents it felt like the second worst thing in the world the first was losing a child so young.

The people of the Jury say they voted the way they did because they were taken to the camp and knew he couldn’t do it by himself. Plus there was so many loose ends on the case, like it is a chance in 1 in 7,700 he did it but we can’t fully prove it since the DNA evidence is degraded. The sad or should I say happy news is he died a few weeks after this trail on June 4, 1978. He had a massive funeral nearly 1,300 people attended the procession, it was 3 and ½ miles long.

The alternative killer options are that it could of been are a group of men that a Reverend Garland Manely said came to claiming they killed the three girls amd needed Christian influence. The cops  were never able to collaborate his story, but it is said he was able to tell the police two names out of four names. Both under a polygraph and under hypnosis, so either it was true or he just really believed it was true.

The second one is Ottis Toole and Henry Lee Lucas, are serial killers themselves, and were nomads when alive. They did pass through Oklahoma so it is possible they killed the three girls or at least knew of whom did, there had to be away of criminals to talk back then. Like how we have the dark web now.

Hart died of heart of attack

If I am allowed to put my input I think both Toole and Lucas where in the area and Hart got in contact with them. He told them of the perfect place to kill and have a fun time so the three of them go in together and kill the three girls, that is why there were many sittings of men there. Even why maybe the finger print doesn’t match, on the flashlight.

The last alternative killer is Bill Stevens he liked taking photos of nude women mostly when they were tied up and bonded. He stole, had killed before, he could of been the Green River Killer. The Green River Killer had two victims a month had one or two people responsible for being the Green River KIller, his own brother even believes he was the killer. He was at work at the time the killings happened at Seminole and has time cards and coworkers to prove it, after this happened he landed back in jail in Kansas. Was looked into as the Girl Scout Killer, was found innocent. He allegedly admitted to the murders in Kansas but then “commited suicide” he was stabbed 46 times, and died at 6:30 am.

There are a few other possible suspects that could be the Girl Scout Murder, I belive it is Gene Lee Hart, but he didnt do it alone. Most large scale crimes like this can’t be done alone, you always need a partenter, so my question is who is his?

That’s it for now my Spooky readers, please give me feedback and let me know anything you think I can improve on. Bye for now Dakota Collins.

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The Legend of the First Female Serial Killer

Lavinia Fisher

Lavinia Fisher was born in Charleston South Carolina in 1793. She had such a short life she lived to be only 27 at most. We know nothing of her childhood or her parents. We do know of what might of lead to the path of crime or not no one can say, she did marry John Fisher.

John about to kill

They owned one of the two house the highway gang used. Which they belonged too. The one they owned was the Six Mile Wayfarer House and the other was Five Mile House. They both were names that for there distance away from Charleston. Plus some outlaws would use these houses for a hide out.

No one can say if the Six Mile Wayfarer House was actually was just a house or as many believe a hotel the Fisher’s used to kill people. Lavinia would lure men in and talk no interrogate the men who are her victims. After she did this for hours she would send the men up with tea to their room and now we have two theories. One is the tea had poison in it and John would go upstairs after a few hours with a knife and stab them repeatedly to make sure their dead. The other theory is that the tea just puts the men to sleep for a few hours like a dead sleep, and Lavinia would pull a lever and the bed would collapse where they slept. Then men would fall into a pit some again say it is just a pit of nothing others say it has spikes to kill them as they hit the bottom.

Six Mile Wayfarer House

These are just her legends but she was jailed not for what your thinking. She robbed men on the highway and was arrested. She was in jail for a year. but John and Lavinia tried to escape since it was low security. They used the bed liens to make a rope and escape but it broke and only John got free. He didn’t run though he got recapture and they were moved to higher security. My guess is he didn’t want to leave Lavinia behind, I would want someone like that if we were in jail together. Then on February 18, 1820 Lavinia and John were executived. John had apperently reformed and became a Christian or at least his guilt had finally gotten to him. He spoke to the coward of 2,000 people and he pleaded for forgiveness from them before he was hung.

Lavinia on the other hand there is two tales how she died. One she went silently and thought she would be pardoned till the end. With her final breath she screamed out “If you have a message for hell, give it to me and I’ll carry it!” Which is the first theory how she was executived. The second is she requested to wear her wedding dress and fought the whole way there people carried her to the gallows. She continued to scream at the cowards saying how dare they stand by this conviction. Before the executionores could tighten the nuse she jumped to her death and screamed out the same thing. “If you have a message for hell, give it to me and I’ll carry it!” The town’s people later that day said they never seen someone with such a wicked smirk in life or in death.

What could of been her wedding dress

Now if you would like to know where the legend comes from terifying truth stay tuned a it is a long story.

Either another local gang or just townsman went to the Fisher’s neighborhood. They wanted to make them change their actions and they taught them lesson they thought. So after they did they left leaving one man behind David Ross to stand watch. The next day, early in the morning two men go to him and attack him then dragged him to the rest of the gang. He looked around the gang and spotted Lavinia. With his eyes he begged for help. She didn’t help him. instead she took him and choked him then bashed his head through the window. He somehow managed to escape and ran to the authorities and told them what happened.

Help I’m scared don’t kill me, you’re a women, Lavinia?

Right after that another traveler showed up and asked if they had a spare room and Lavinia said no. She did offer him a meal and some tea. This travelers name is John Peeples, and he hated tea. So reluctantly he accepted and went in. He ate the meal and dumped the tea when Lavinia wasn’t looking to not be rude. He was getting weird looks from John Fisher and kinda shook them off. Once the plates were cleared away Lavinia left and came back with shockingly good news they had a spare room. He was handed a new cup of tea and went to his room, but something seemed off. Where these nice people going to rob him, try to kill him, rape him, or something even worse? He dumped the tea yet again and decided to sleep in the wooden chair by the door. It was in the middle of the night when he heard a large crash and he was woken up. He looked to where the sound of the noise came from and saw the bed collapsed. He had unearthed there plan to kill him for his money or just for fun and he didn’t stay for a minute longer. He ran out right after that, straight out the window and rode his horse straight to town. He told the authorities what had happened in the Six Mile Wayfarer House.

Supposedly the authorities went there and found hundreds of bodies underground there, how many people did they kill, or did they kill no one? We shall never know. It is said Lavinia still walks the grounds of the old jail house, after the Earth quake in 1883, she walks more freely around town. Her soul is stuck from such a tragic life with such end.

Story time

I got a Premonition

So last time was hello and yes Dakota Collins is my ghost writer name on here, though to me it more than ghost writer name and one day will get into that. Now onto the story, my readers hope you enjoy.

Peaceful sleeping or is it?

So I was 14 at the time and it was June I was sleeping and was having a nightmare of my grandma she was in the nursing home. At the time she was pretty sick so it made sense to me. But then it got crazy they used the lift to get her up, I think it is spelt hoyer, lifting her in it from the bed to her wheelchair, and BAM! It breaks. I see her on the floor with a cracked skull and blood everywhere, and that is where I woke up. I was gasping for air and I think I was crying I might of screamed because my mother woke up when I did and asked if I was okay. Which I wasn’t I just saw my grandmother die in my nightmare, I don’t remember my dreams I haven’t since I was kid. So it definitely was something I didn’t know what at the time.

What a hoyer lift is, scary.

It took a few minutes before I calmed down and told her my dream which scared her as much as me. We both went back to sleep uneasy. A month later about it was around July 4th and we’re back at the hospital because of my grandma, and eventually she lost her fight to kidney failure, she did die but not as I saw thank God or who ever you believe in.

Death, life, it is a circle

If you don’t know what a premonition is your either luckily since you haven’t had one. The other reason is that you don’t know isjust haven’t delved into everything about the supernatural and the many movies around it. There are many movies that deal with it and most of the time you can’t change fate we all know of 9/11 may those who lost their lives that day may they rest in peace, but many people had a premonition about it or it is said they did. Now no one can actually verify a premonition since it is seen by one person or many but if it is seen by many it is never the same.

Most of premonition people had for 9/11 were that weren’t going to live long so they told their spouse and family members they loved them. They also gave advice, and hopefully they left on a high note. Others had chills the morning of the attack or vertigo. Some people were now more connected to the spirit side because this event took place.

Twin Towers before and after

Some movies that show case premonitions are Premonition, Final Destination all of them, Gifted, Heroes, and probably more, I don’t want to include ones I am unsure of.

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